"1984" and the North American Union
"1984" and the North American Union
#1"1984" and the North American Union
Posted: 1/25/08 at 2:04pm
I stumbled upon this video on YouTube.
Kinda sobering, and realistic, because my passport is implanted with an electronic chip. I got it about 2 months ago.
What do we think about this, honestly?
I'm not talking about 9/11 conspiracy theories and that junk.
I'm talking about, of course media cover-ups and control of the general population.
can this "One world Gov't" actually come to fruition, and sooner than we think?
link to video
"I'm an American, Damnit!!! And if it's three things I don't believe in, it's quitting and math."
#2re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 1/25/08 at 2:07pm
It worries me that Lou Dobbs is the brave reporter who dares to face such an issue!
or whoever they put it.
"Writing is like prostitution. First, you do it for love, then you do it for a few friends, and finally you do it for money." ~ Moliere
#2re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 2:27pm
Lou Dobbs raises my eyebrow..
BUT...
I'm convinced that this is not so outlandish a scenario.
Awareness about what might happen is critical right now.
Pass this video on your friends and family.
God Bless.
What great ones do the less will prattle of
#3re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 2:57pm
This sometimes helps.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YWvCSHsaLww&feature=related
What great ones do the less will prattle of
Updated On: 4/24/08 at 02:57 PM
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#4re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 3:05pm
BFB, I agree with what she says.
Except I'd rather go out and protest war for 20 minutes than pray for it.
#5re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 3:08pm
The North American Union is promoted by a curious combination of Republicans and Democrats and detested by an even more curious combination of Democrats and Republicans.
It stinks, however you approach it.
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#6re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 3:09pm
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
#7re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 3:10pm
I hear you, Namaste.
Action AND Prayer, for me. I try to cover all bases.
What great ones do the less will prattle of
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#9re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 3:23pm
Why wouldn't it happen?
You mean if we win that "war on terror"?
#10re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 5:36pm
This is a very paranoid piece of propoganda that fails on a number of levels.
I don't doubt that there are elements in society that would want to see world government, and in theory that could be a very good thing if it was done with integrity and a sound understanding of human nature.
The fears propogated here completely ignore both the good and bad aspects of human nature, the lessons of world history and the unpredictables that have always happened (also known as Acts of God) throughout history.
It's almost impossible to address in a post this size just how intellectually feeble that video is.
kelzama
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#11re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 5:41pm
"I don't doubt that there are elements in society that would want to see world government, and in theory that could be a very good thing if it was done with integrity and a sound understanding of human nature."
Spoken like a true socialist, Scripps.
#12re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/24/08 at 6:02pm
Perhaps I'm not a socialist but an idealist.
But then how can I be an idealist when I understand human nature?
Perhaps I'm not an idealist but an intellectual.
But then...
you catch my drift?
Updated On: 4/24/08 at 06:02 PM
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#13re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/25/08 at 1:22amWhatever you are, your little ass will be marching in line with the rest of us when it all hits the fan!
#14re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/25/08 at 1:31amNationalism and religion are the two greatest killers of mankind
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
#15re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/25/08 at 1:49am
I was actually speaking with someone the other day about the similarities between 1984 and the US foreign policy of late. Afghanistan was the #1 enemy until we toppled the Taliban. Then Iraq became the #1 enemy and we've been in there for 5 years, still far from in control of the situation and already the administration wants to move onto the new #1 enemy, Iran.
It's like the scene where they switch from a war with Eurasia to war with Eastasia- in the middle of a speech- and the Party instantly convinces the people to accept this new mindset, and they convince themselves Eastasia had been the enemy all along.
The number one threat to America isn't Iran, it's the American people that will blindly support the government's quest towards perpetual war.
Like a firework unexploded
Wanting life but never knowing how
Updated On: 4/25/08 at 01:49 AM
Wanting life but never knowing how
kelzama
Broadway Star Joined: 9/14/04
#16re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/25/08 at 9:20am
Look back further in history. There's always been a #1 enemy, that's nothing new.
The number one threat to America is the mindset that government has the solutions to our problems.
#17re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/25/08 at 5:48pmI'm well aware of that. But the fact that Bush seamlessly switched from Iraq to Iran with no one questioning him was what reminded me of that scene in 1984. I'm surprised he hasn't blamed Emmanuel Goldstein for the anti-Iraq posters.
Like a firework unexploded
Wanting life but never knowing how
Wanting life but never knowing how
#18re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/26/08 at 12:30pm
"Whatever you are, your little ass will be marching in line with the rest of us when it all hits the fan!"
My little ass will have been incinerated in a crematorium long before world government happens and so will most of the other little asses posting on this board.
"The number one threat to America is the mindset that government has the solutions to our problems."
As a Brit, I would generalise this and say that a major self-delusion of any individual is the mindset that any politician or form of government has the solution to our problems.
I do think there are far more immediate threats than a 1984-type of world government, such as global warming (whether you believe its causes are man-made or otherwise) and viruses that can resist antibiotics.
TheatreDiva90016
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#19re: '1984' and the North American Union
Posted: 4/26/08 at 2:27pm
Well, I just cut open my passport and there is no chip in it.
*Never Mind* I got it in 2000...
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Updated On: 4/26/08 at 02:27 PM
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