THE LION IN WINTER

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 5/24/04 at 12:37am

Umm...yeah, I'm watching the remake of THE LION IN WINTER with Glen Close and Patrick Stewart, and I'm totally confused. Are all of his sons gay or just the one? They're all yelling at each other and someone said something about a boy and a boy and I'm so lost.... Updated On: 5/24/04 at 12:37 AM

[wildparty20]

Posted: 5/24/04 at 9:53am

Just Richard is rumored to have had male lovers. In Goldman's script he had a relationship with Phillip, however it doesn't go into much detail about how far the relationship went. Although, sodomy is implied.

Anyone else see this last night? The Lion in Winter is my husband/partner's favorite play and he worships Katharine Hepburn, so we love the original movie. I thought Glenn was okay. There were some moments when she "Norma'ed" it up as my husband put it. Patrick Stewart had nothing invested in his performance. The sons were all charactatures, and Richard sounded like he was dealing with trying to hide an Irish or Scotch accent more than he was with fighting for his rightful title of heir to the throne. The design aspect of the film was awful too. I thought it was too brite, clean, and felt as if I were watching the show on a high school stage set. Lighting was awful. During evening scenes this harsh blue light was always on and didn't look realistic at all. My vote is still for Peter O'Toole and Katharine Hepburn in the original. Flawless performances.

[nystateomind04]

Posted: 5/24/04 at 9:09pm

def. a fan of the original. does anyone know when it will show again, id like to see the new version

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 5/24/04 at 9:12pm

Friday. 8pm. Showtime.

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 5/25/04 at 6:06pm

i missed Stewart/Close, but very much enjoy O'Toole/Hepburn. What i REALLY would have liked to have seen, however, was Robert Preston/Julie Harris premiere (with Christopher Walken as Philip) or the recent Laurence Fishburn/Stockard Channing revival. Don't forget appearing as Philip in the Hepburn movie (his screen debut, i believe) was the future 007, Timothy Dalton.

[rlbgbc]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 4:14pm

Gracious me! I hate to bump this thread back up to the top (but I'm doing it), but I just saw this last night through the wonders of TiVo.

RobbieJ was right -- I've never seen so much scenery-chewin' in my born days!! Mainly from Glenn Close. You knowww, you'd think that when essaying the role of "Elinor", you steer away from anything remotely Hepburn-ish -- for obvious reasons. Nay, not so. It was a cross between her Hamlet "Gertrude" and Kate. I had to pull back to Cleveland to watch it.

[NYadgal]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 4:32pm

Katharine Hepburn was born to play Eleanor of Aquitaine!

Updated On: 8/24/04 at 04:32 PM

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 4:47pm

The original production starred ROSEMARY Harris, not Julie (both are great actresses).

The revival with Fishburne and Channing was a complete misfire, mostly due to the fact that director Michael Mayer couldn't decide on the tone and approach he wanted for the play -- is it a drama? a comedy? is it camp? melodrama? He couldn't decide, so the actors were left to their own devices and the result was that they all looked like they were acting in different plays from one another. A big mess.

[Plum]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 4:50pm

That's too bad- the Fishburne/Channing combination sounds really interesting.

[PJ]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 9:04pm

The community theatre is doing this show in November. Hopefully I'll have time to do it w/ football and all.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 8/24/04 at 10:00pm

in the time period this is based, little boys were used as sex objects to men. They were really considered females. That is one of the reason they said about having sex with boys. And I am not joking, either