Trivial Pursuit #3
Trivial Pursuit #3
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#0Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:02am
Everybody Ready?
The FIRST film version of THE MUSIC MAN (1962, Robert Preston, Shirley Jones) used the entire score of the stage show with the exception of ONE song.
Who can tell us what song did NOT make it to the film?
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#1re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:09amMy White Knight ?
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#2re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:11am
Boobs is CORRECT!!! :)
GREAT Job!
Hey, Boobs, I'll give you a THOUSAND bonus points if you can tell us WHY the song WASN'T in the movie! :)
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#3re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:12am
One of my favorite moments in the last revival.
Rebecca Luker was perfect. :)
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
#4re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:12amMy white knight knew My White Knight!
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#5re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:16am
Ah Rath. you make me blush. 
I have no idea why they omitted it Mary_Ethel. I'm sure it was for a stupid reason...like it was too sexual or something.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#6re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:17am
C'mon, Boobs, don't you WANT a THOUSAND BONUS POINTS? :)
Let's hear from you! :)
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
NYadgal
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/18/04
#7re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:17amI happen to love that song...
"Two drifters off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. . ."
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#8re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:26am
All righty, here's what happened:
When Meredith Willson was writing THE MUSIC MAN, he got "stuck" regarding Marian's big solo and turned to his Composer-Lricst pal Frank Loesser (GUYS AND DOLLS, HOW TO SUCCEED...) for advice on what kind of a number to write.
Loeeser did MORE than give him advice... he gave him a song! ("My White Knight" had been dropped from Loesser's THE MOST HAPPY FELLA.)
Willson accepted the song graciously and ran with it. Of course, Loesser received no credit in THE MUSIC MAN playbill for his contribution.
When Warner Brothers brought the film rights to The MUSIC MAN, Loesser balked and said "My White Knight" was NOT part of THE MUSIC MAN and would allow song to be used ONLY if Warner Brothers paid HIM directly for use of song.
W.B. told Loesser to go screw himself, so Willson finally HAD to write his OWN solo song for Marian and came up with the inferior "Being in Love."
Pretty nifty, huh?
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
Updated On: 10/22/04 at 09:26 AM
#9re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:28amWOW....thanks Mary_Ethel..I never knew that.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#10re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:36am
It was a DEEP, DARK secret for many years--known only by the folks who were on the creative team for the original THE MUSIC MAN.
I'm not sure as to exactly why and when the facts became more widely known.
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#11re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:37amMary_Ethel, are you really Shirley Jones? C'mon, you can tell us...
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#12re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:43am
Rath...
Well, someone has FINALLY cracked the code.
YES, I am Shirley!!!
And I'm STILL in Therapy regarding the angst I suffered while married to that womanizer, no-talent (I had to CARRY him EVERY night during our Cabaret Act) Jack Cassidy! :)
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#13re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 9:46amYou should be in therapy to deal with why you have yet to get rid of your current albatross of a husband, Shirley dear.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#14re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 10:00am
Rath...maybe he has a good tongue darling.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#15re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 10:00am
Rath,
You're a little behind the times, Sweetie.
I filed for Divorce from Marty Ingels in 2002--as you pointed out, ANOTHER life-enriching relationship.
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#16re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 10:03am
Yes, dear, but you GOT BACK TOGETHER WITH HIM!!!
And Boobs - ewww.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#17re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 10:08am
Wait a minute... there is a fat tub of lard next to bed in me...
Oh... Oh...
You're right, It IS Ingels!!!
H E L P ! ! ! 
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#18re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 10:20amRUN, SHIRLEY!! RUN LIKE THE WIND, DARLING!!!!
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#19re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 11:05am
I never knew that about "My White Knight"
In the middle of the song there is a bridge between verses :
All I want is a plain man; all i want is a modest man;
a quiet man, a gentle man, a straight forward and honest man
to sit with me in a cottage somewhere in the state of Iowa.
And I would like him to be more interested in me
than he is in himself.
And more interested in us than in me.
And if occasion'ly he'd ponder what make
Shakespeare and Beethoven great,
him I could love 'til I die. Him I could love 'til I die.
This bridge was also used in "Being in Love". So, who wrote that part of "My White Knight" Loesser or Wilson?
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#20re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 11:38am
Willson wrote the Bridge, Marc.
That's why it was retained in the film.
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
#21re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 12:04pmDo you know how they got the rights to use it in the dreadful remake with Matthew Broderick?
Mary_Ethel
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
#22re: Trivial Pursuit #3
Posted: 10/22/04 at 12:55pm
Unfortunately, Marc, I don't.
One thought: Loesser is know deceased and the trustees of his estate my not care as much about his art as he does.
Or maybe... the Loesser estate was paid royalties to use in Broderick film!
VERY intriguing question: anyone else have any ideas on this subject?
"I say YOU'RE the CUTEST one. No, I say YOU'RE the CUTEST One. And we go on like that from dawn to three."
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