"We're allowing [gay couples] to exist"
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#1"We're allowing [gay couples] to exist"
Posted: 6/25/09 at 10:16am
On Friday, Pennsylvania Senator John Eichelberger, who is sponsoring a bill to ban same-sex marriage in the state, held a radio debate with Senator Daylin Leach, who is sponsoring a bill to legalize same-sex marriage in the state. In the interview, Eichelberger said there's no reason to allow gay couples to marry and said that they're not being punished. In fact, he lauds the fact that gay couples are allowed to exist.
LEACH: How would he [Eichelberger] want to encourage stability in gay couples?
EICHELBERGER: I wouldn?t. I mean they can practice whatever sexual activity they like to practice, but there?s no reason to give them special consideration. We don?t give them special consideration in Pennsylvania for any reason. Why in the world would we allow them to marry?
LEACH: How would you encourage gay couples to be able to provide for their families?
EICHELBERGER: Well, I wouldn't.
LEACH: What would you expect of them?
EICHELBERGER: There is no reason to encourage that type of behavior in Pennsylvania...That comes back to the definition of family and that?s where we differ. We can call all kinds of things families. I mean, we can say a 3 party marriage is a family, or 7 or 8 people or marrying younger and younger children these days .
HOST: Are you saying that by their very nature homosexual relationships are dysfunctional?
EICHELBERGER: [Pause] Um. I guess I would say that. I would say that.
LEACH: Should our only policy towards [same-sex] couples be one of punishment, to somehow prove that they?ve done something wrong?
Eichelberger: They?re not being punished. We?re allowing them to exist, and do what every American can do. We?re just not rewarding them with any special designation.
#2re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 10:20amUgh, what a douche bag.
#2re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 10:20amWas it James Carville who described Pennsylvania as: Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, with a whole lotta Alabama in between?
#3re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 10:27amThat sums it up perfectly, Madbrian.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#4re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 10:39amI hear them gays is pre-miscuous. Sure you can say their "gay married" but one of em wuld still be runnin off to Argenteena or somewheres to do it with someone who ain't his "Wife."
#5re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 11:13amTwo men gettin' mayrrd?!?! How do they decide which one wears the dress??
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Joined: 12/31/69
#6re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 11:21am
Oh, thatn's easy!
Q. Which one wears the dress??
A. THEY BOTH DO!
Haw haw haw haw!
#7re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 11:44amThe sad thing is, I've actually been asked that question. That and "But who's the bride?".
#8re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 12:21pm
While the comments above by the Senator are DISGUSTING, this thread makes me think of a cute story along the Who wears the dress lines.
My partner and I live in New Jersey now, but spent the first 10 1/2 years of our relationship in the SF Bay Area. A good friend of Steve's from high school has a daughter, and she was about 4-5 years at the time of the marriages all happening in California. We are like uncles to her. The mother asked the daughter if she wanted to Dance at Jarret and Steve's wedding when we got married. This confused Kira, who said we couldn't get married as we were both boys. Her mother told her that well, they love each other and should get married. Kira thought this was HYSTERICAL and through fits of laughter wanted to know if we would "Dance Like Cinderella". Her mother asked her who she would think would wear the Princess dress. Without missing a beat She Screamed, "STEVE!!!!!!"
I just think its great that children can be so accepting.
yeah
Featured Actor Joined: 10/2/08
#9re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 1:09pm
Jokes, jokes, jokes? I don't understand! Those comments are so damaging and hurtful and inaccurate and just wrong!
I can't help but sound like a broken record; however, if a political figure said these kinds of disparaging things about black people or Jewish people, I highly doubt there would be so many jokes being made.
Marriage is not a SPECIAL privilege! Our families are no less valuable, no less normal and no less loving. It's just sickening.
#10re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 1:22pmSadly, I don't think he's joking.
#11re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 1:24pm
Her mother asked her who she would think would wear the Princess dress. Without missing a beat She Screamed, "STEVE!!!!!!"
Ok, I genuinely LOL'd. That is PRECIOUS!
yeah - We joke because we see no need to state the obvious, which we've done thousands of times over already. Yes, Eichelberg is an evil twisted ignoramus who should be called out for these remarks. Better?
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#12re: 'We're allowing [gay couples] to exist'
Posted: 6/25/09 at 1:29pmYeah, you are no doubt too young to remember when Jesse Jackson called New York "Hymietown." People were outraged, but there were lots of jokes, too. Sometimes the best humor comes from outrage.
#13we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/25/09 at 1:40pm
oh for crap's sake. they're called gay for a reason. hellooooooo. look up the word.
some people...
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pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#14we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/25/09 at 5:01pmWhat hw doesn't realize is that it is us, the gay mafia, who actually allowing *him* to exist.
#15we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/25/09 at 9:49pmWell... at least he is allowing us to exist, rather then send us to a deserted island. How generous of him. God... could he have said it in more of a snobbish, jackassish way?
killertofu333
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/23/08
#16we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/25/09 at 11:00pm
Well... at least he is allowing us to exist, rather then send us to a deserted island
Hmmm....I don't know if an island would be all that bad. At least we'd all be together and I wouldn't have to waste my valuable time and money on straight girls at bars. Inadvertently buying shots for her and her boyfriend is getting pretty old.
Taz, how can I become a "Made-Woman" in the "Gay Mafia"? Do I have to be an enforcer first and break some legs or can I just get right to the good stuff with the whips?
#17we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/25/09 at 11:44pmTofu, that's not a bad idea. Maybe a gay country. It will be sturdily built and nicely decorated. All the most talented people will be there. Niiice.
#18we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/25/09 at 11:57pmWell, a religious leader in Uganda said he believes all gays should be sent to an island... hell, if nothing else, put cameras on it, and make it either a bad reality show, or low quality porn!
killertofu333
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/23/08
#19we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/26/09 at 12:48am
Tofu, that's not a bad idea. Maybe a gay country.
If we do get ousted, I say we bum-rush Catalina Island and rename it Dental Dam-ia (with or without the hyphen, your choice)
hell, if nothing else, put cameras on it, and make it either a bad reality show, or low quality porn!
I vote low quality porn. I'd rather see grainy UHF asses than the LOGO version of Daisy of Love. Eww.
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#20we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/26/09 at 1:32amThe Pennsylvania State Legislature, ladies and gentlemen. They actually get less charming than this, believe it or not.
#21we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/26/09 at 8:41ami'm with killa and am all about the grainy uhf asses.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#22we have rescinded the gay couple allowance for living - open season
Posted: 6/26/09 at 10:21amUHF...now I'm waxing nostalgic for that awesome fine-tuning knob so I can more clearly view Gilligan's Island reruns. It usually helped to sit on the right end of the sofa and not move until commercial breaks.
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