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I like how at the end of the song you can tell that even she's doubting what she's singing and the harsh reality is setting in that it's very possible she'll never see Rapunzel again. I agree that it gives more weight to her actions in the film after that.

^^ Reminds me of how when I saw it, there was a group of old ladies behind me. Some in their 80s, probably. They all liked it except one, who said there was "too much commotion" in it, haha. One of the other ladies said she had previously seen a performance of ITW on stage and thought the movie was a lot better. My mother loved it. She's not that old, though (60s).

"Many people have gone to see it, and come out either mixed or not particularly caring for it. The only true fans of the film are theatre fanatics, not the general movie going public." How do you figure this? I've seen people complaining about it but I've also seen plenty of non-theater fanatics saying they loved it. Check out Twitter, Instagram, etc and you'll see plenty of very positive reactions. It's not accurate to say that all people who are not theatre fanatics leave this movie negativ...

"You are putting too much stock in speculation. RT and Metacritic are sights many film buffs frequent. They follow the Oscar race to a T. Many of them(including me) who rated Into the wood knew it was a musical." That seems like just as much speculation as what I wrote. I never said everyone who rated the film had no idea what it was. I was just pointing out some of the complaints I've seen repeatedly from people leaving online reviews, since you were questioning the idea that these types of ...

"I also think it's funny how some are trying to belittle the reasons for why some didn't like the film "oh they didn't like it cause its dark and they thought it was going to be a happy film" lulz. Yes I'm sure that's the case for some but is it so hard to believe that MAYBE people just didn't like it because they thought it could have been better?" People are saying this because of what the audience reviewers themselves are saying. I've been following the IMDB board since the movie opened, a...

The only way this movie would have ever had a super high score on IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, or whatever, is if they drastically changed it and sanitized it to make it more of a crowd-pleaser. The fact that it has such split reactions is a good thing. As others have mentioned, what matters is that it has made money and that it has turned a lot of people on to the greatness of ITW & Sondheim.

My guess is that everyone who went to see Les Miserables knew exactly what they were going to see, which is not the case for ITW. If you factored out the people who thought they were going to see a typical Disney movie and were disappointed when it was not, the user score would probably be closer to that of LM.

Gothampc, in the original show you hear the footsteps, then a slightly raised platform cracks apart and the BW falls off the back of it. You hear the giant, but I don't think anything is shown or said that indicates she is necessarily stomped on. I didn't think the movie scene was any less explicit than the stage scene. In both versions it's possible she might have died just from the fall. Which goes back to the idea being discussed earlier of the giantess not really being a villain bent on m...

"I can imagine that the only reason why Sondheim was okay with this was because he’s over 80 years old and this is the only chance he’ll ever see this musical on screen. I bet that 20 years ago, there is no way Sondheim would ever allow this to happen." I get the sense that Sondheim actually doesn't care that much about Rapunzel surviving, now or 20 years ago. I mean, I read that he was fine with that script from the '90s, and even the Baker's Wife survives in that. Rob Marshall has said that...

icecreambenjamin, I will agree with you that seeing the giant's face made the killing even more uncomfortable. I still can't believe the way those people were acting in your theater. It's impossible to experience it the way it's supposed to be experienced in that environment.

Yeah I agree, you're supposed to feel bad for the giant. I always felt bad for her in the Broadway version too. There's no evil characters in Into the Woods. The group's two choices are kill her or send Jack to his death, so it's done only out of necessity. That's what makes Riding Hood's exchange with Cinderella before "No One Is Alone" such an important moment in the show.

KathyNYC2, I love that story and had a similar experience. As I was watching people enter the theater, I was imagining how different groups were going to respond. For example, there was a group of old white ladies sitting directly behind me, older couples where I would guess the men had been dragged there by their wives, a bunch of Hispanic families with young kids, etc. The only one I heard say anything negative was one of the old ladies (she must have been 80+, and before the movie actually...

That's awful. You paid for your ticket too and have every right to enjoy the film without morons messing it up for you. If they don't like it they should shut up and deal with it, or shut up and leave.

Wow, icecreambenjamin. Where do you live? It was nothing like that in my theater. I think maybe one or two people got restless when the last couple songs began, but overall even the kids seemed engaged throughout.

I think Blunt's performance of that song, and the way they filmed the scene, are just more understated than what we're used to from Gleason's take in the Broadway show. Blunt gives a softer take on the character in general. I still enjoyed it very much, though.

Does anyone know if Lapine or Sondheim ever discussed what actually happens to her?

I think having the Witch start changing back to ugly would have helped it make a lot more sense to people. A common gripe I've seen from people reacting to the movie is that her disappearance makes no sense to them, and I can't really blame them for saying that. Still not sure how I'd feel about the mother dragging her down, though. I think that almost takes the disappearance from too vague to too literal, whereas just starting to change back to ugly would put it somewhere in-between.

I'd love to find that script as well. It does not sound good, but it would still be a very interesting read. Rapunzel's one thing, but I could never get behind an ITW in which the Baker's Wife survives.

^ Same thing happened in my theater. I heard an adult man yell, "Oh God!" during that scene, haha. I guess it is kind of shocking that it happens, if you're not familiar with the story.

That sounds God-awful, and would have been a huge insult to the original work. Sadly though, I am sure some of these people leaving reviews on IMDB and Fandango would have much preferred it.