A stupid Mary Kay Laturno question- Page 2

[etoile]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 12:59am

Wow, these comments make me look at you in a whole different light. And the glare isn't pretty.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 1:32am

So what if he had the penis. She still shouldn't have done what she did. SHe's the one who stuck it in her.

[~FloweryFriend~]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 1:51am

I remember hearing about a book written in French with a title that translated to something like "One Crime: Love". I think the reason it was only sold in France had something to do with an American law preventing people from profiting off of the media from their crimes.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 2:04am

Um, Bill Clinton anyone? To read what happened between him and Monica was the only reason I bought that book. And isn't Martha going to write something about her little stunt?

[StephanietheStar]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 2:06am

Is anyone else happy for them? she apparently made a stupid descision for sleeping w/ a minor and getting preggers (twice) but (not to sound all Disney on y'all) they appear to be soulmates. There is something they see in each other that they can not stay apart! so Good luck to them. I'm sure they'll last longer than J.LO and Marc, and Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck! (and the list could go on...)

[bythesword84]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 2:06am

Yes, she wasn't allowed to release a book here I believe I read.

Um, you're happy for the kids? Hello people, she was MARRIED when she had this "affair" with her student and she already had what...4 kids? No one's thinking of them.

[StephanietheStar]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 2:13am

that's a different story, if the world wasn't so media obsessed (and myself is partly included so don't get me wrong) then as long as she raises her children the best she can they should have no problem. They have two parents that love them and they were concieved out of love. As an adult I'm sure they will understand. JMHO

[bythesword84]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 2:19am

Well for someone to sit there and say "I'm happy the kids will have their parents together" is just wrong considering her other children lost their parents marriage because of it. Whether they understand it or not, how scarring must it be to have your teacher mother have an affair with a 12 year old and then go off to jail for 7 years.

Honestly, I don't care what the woman does with her life, but I don't see how anyone can be happy given the circumstances. Its like CJR said, its the circumstance that makes it bad. If it were a male teacher and a female student people would talk about him as horrible and perverted and not about them being soulmates. If they had gotten together at a time when both of them were consenting adults, no one would look twice. I don't care how in love with someone you are, I don't think its normal or healthy for a teacher to have a relationship with a student who is twelve. That is where the problem comes from, not the age gap itself.

[~FloweryFriend~]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 2:21am

I think that making money off the crime while incarcerated for it might have something to do with the problem...

[bythesword84]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 2:22am

Its only a matter of time really before there's a book out about their love or something. Mary Kay's Tips for Teachers. Who knows?

[MrMidwest]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 12:15pm

It's an effed up situation, no doubt, but she did go to jail and serve her time and he's of legal age now. I just wonder how the kids will react if they eventually learn of the circumstances of their conception. Not to mention the fact that the whole situation puts another nail in the "sanctity of marraige" notion.

[etoile]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 12:19pm

"they were concieved out of love."


No, they were concieved out of rape and other crimes against a child.

[StephanietheStar]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 3:20pm

I don't think it was rape because he sure wanted it..and the rape of a minor (word I don't want to misspell!) is horrible but in this case he was up for it as much as she was. It's just stupid to call that rape.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 3:32pm

"Rape", by definition, doesn't just relate to physical consent, though. This isn't "rape" in the sense of a victim being violently forced against his/her will to submit to sexual acts. Rape can include an abuse or violation (be it a physical abuse, or the exploitation of one's state of mind, age, or circumstances). Here, what makes this situation so reprehensible is that as a teacher, a person in a position of power, Mary Kay was reckless and manipulative (some would say criminally so), and had sex with a boy far too young to understand what he was consenting to and the repercussions of his actions.

The kid was twelve when it started - likely just beginning puberty and discovering his sexuality. She was married with children. Can anyone really say he genuinely knew what he was getting himself into? She should have known better than him. So no, I would not say he was "up for it as much as she was".

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 3:38pm

Statutory rape is an adult having sex with anyone under the age of consent. It doesn't matter whether they were up for it, who pursued who, or who put what where. She was over the age of 18 and he was well under the age of 18, and that's why it was rape.

I don't care whether or not they're in love, it was illegal, and completely irresponsible for her as an adult to pursue this relationship. If they had met as student and teacher, but not had a relationship until he was 18, I probably wouldn't have such an issue with it, but that wasn't the case. She's a criminal and I think it's disgusting that it's getting any sort of media attention, especially if she's profitting from it.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 3:39pm

Villi was one of her sons playmates--Imagine how that twists the dynamics of that "happy family." Picture yourself as a 12 year old. Then your MOM is sleeping with your best friend. Then your parents divorce because of it and your Mom goes to jail. Then your buddy Villi is your Dad.

It's twisted beyond imagining. And to get back to the point, how do they support themselves? I guess Villi could profit from the experience he was the "Victim" and there's no law against that. What company in their right mind would want to underwrite Mary-Kay and Villi's Wedding? Who is looking at the coverage and saying "I want a wedding ring just like that child rapist!"

[Craig]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 4:02pm

I'm not going to comment on anything above. What I wanted to post is that I bet the outcry would be deafening if the situation was reversed and a male teacher had impregnated a 12 year old girl and then married her.

Or not. But I think people who can find the good in this might be doing so because it "seems" to be more acceptable to believe a boy wanted it more than a girl.

All else aside - the crime of rape is heinous in any capacity.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 4:09pm

Ah, yeah...is anyone here really saying the crime was rape only? The boy clearly wanted it (and, perhaps, girls in some situations reversed from this might want it), but there's a reason we have some laws: it's called statutory rape because, even if consensual, it's illegal.
And, quite frankly, that's the end all and be all of the situation there for me.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 4:21pm

Well, the whole point of statutory rape and the age of consent is that the relationship is NOT consensual, because the child in question is not old enough to consent to the relationship, regardless of whether or not they physically wanted it.

[MTVMANN]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 4:21pm

StephanietheStar, you make great points!!!!!!

[South Fl Marc]

Posted: 5/26/05 at 5:15pm

No she doesn't.

Stephanie, suppose it had been a 35 year old man with a 13 year old boy, would you say it wasn't rape if that boy also said he wanted it?