BREAKING NEWS: ATF says it disrupted skinhead plot in Tenn., Ark. to assassinate Obama- Page 2

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 10/27/08 at 5:50pm

Of course I read your post, Goth.

Did you read mine? As usual, you didn't respond to legitmate questions your post raised.
Updated On: 10/27/08 at 05:50 PM

[Mother's Younger Brother]

Posted: 10/27/08 at 5:51pm

So...how long before the McCain/Palin team actually invokes this as a reason to NOT vote for Obama? I mean, the monstrous manipulation of it all would be completely lost on "real Americans," but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

[snl89]

Posted: 10/27/08 at 5:51pm

Yeah, honestly, I don't think ANYONE is suggesting that the McCain/Palin campaign is actually purposely TRYING to get people to make assassination attempts on Obama. That would be a ridiculous notion.

But, what we're trying to say is that even though they're just trying to incite fear for POLITICAL purposes, that fear IS going to inevitably transfer over to general life. And that's a very, very dangerous thing that they have GOT to realize they have a very real effect on when they try and make people believe he's a terrorist!

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 10/27/08 at 7:09pm

From Salon.com:



It seemed for a few minutes like the big news of the afternoon might not be Sen. Ted Stevens' conviction after all, but the disruption of an alleged skinhead plot to kill Barack Obama and more than 100 other African-Americans. The news even merited a brief siren on the Drudge Report. But the allegations seem to be much ado about not all that much, and the plan itself reads like something even Wile E. Coyote would have dismissed as doomed to failure.

Obviously, threats to the lives of the presidential candidates have to be taken seriously, and that's all the truer given the potential that Obama will be elected as the country's first black president. But even a cursory reading of an affidavit filed in the case shows that this particular allegation is more Seas of David than John Wilkes Booth.

Charged in the case are Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schlesselman, 18. The two men met on the Internet through a mutual friend about a month ago, the affidavit says. The two allegedly discussed their mutual belief in white power, as well as the possibility of going on a "killing spree" that would involve targeting 88 people for death and an additional 14 African-Americans for beheading. (The two numbers are significant to the neo-Nazi and white power movements, respectively.) The spree was to end with Obama's assassination, Brian A. Weaks, a special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, says in the affidavit. The two men allegedly planned to finance this by robbing homes, and though they had five guns between them at the time of their arrest, they also allegedly wanted to rob a gun store to obtain more weapons.

But there are some telling details in the affidavit that seem to indicate Cowart and Schlesselman were less than truly credible threats to Obama's life. From the affidavit, here's Weaks' description of how they planned to carry out the assassination:

Schlesselman stated that they planned to drive their vehicle as fast as they could toward Obama shooting at him from the windows. Both individuals stated they would dress in all white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt.

And then there's the matter of their actions, as described by Weaks, during the time leading up to their arrest. First Cowart, while driving, allegedly shot out a church window. Later, Weaks says, "they purchased window chalk and wrote numerous racially motivated words and symbols on the exterior of Cowart's vehicle. This included a Swastika and the numbers 14 and 88 on the hood."

Not exactly the best way to stay under the radar as you plot the assassination of a major presidential candidate.

An agent with the ATF's Nashville field office who is handling press inquiries about the case has not yet responded to Salon's request for comment.
― Alex Koppelman

[BigFatBlonde]

Posted: 10/28/08 at 1:25pm

A few Right Wing Faces of Hate:










http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/10/27/skinheads-arrested-in-plot-to-kill-obama/

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 10/28/08 at 1:29pm

Lord, skinhead hysteria again? Didn't we already do this back in 1988?

[BigFatBlonde]

Posted: 10/28/08 at 1:38pm

Yes we did.. and as a result the neo-nazi/kkk/skinhead movement and its financial structure was dealt a MAJOR blow.

I say more the more sunshine... the better.

Updated On: 10/28/08 at 01:38 PM

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/28/08 at 1:40pm

That guy with the rifle is wearing more eye makeup than Liza.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/28/08 at 1:46pm

I think he's one on the back-up boys in her Kay Thompson tribute.

Updated On: 10/28/08 at 01:46 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/28/08 at 1:47pm

And no one wears more makeup than Liza!

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/28/08 at 4:54pm

UPDATE: The family of an 18-year-old man accused of plotting a national killing spree that would end with the assassination of Barack Obama says he didn't like black people, but the plot wasn't serious.

Kayla Schlesselman said Tuesday at the family's Arkansas home that she talked to her brother Paul and that "he's sorry about everything he's done."
Sister says Obama plot suspect is sorry