Colin Powell Resigns

I was just searching for this thread.
I'm slightly off-put by this. Papa, have you done your research yet?

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I dunno, CurtainUp. Like I said, it looked to me like he was dragged along on a lot of these things. I've lost some respect for him (and for Republican centrists like John McCain and Rudy Guiliani, too) because of how they've smiled and nodded at everything Bush did, but I understand that in politics you can't afford to go around burning bridges all the time.

I remember reading a biographical article about him way back, probably in 1999 or 2000 in the Times Magazine, which said that owing to his military background, Powell tended to put loyalty to the command hierarchy over personal principle. I think we've seen that in action over the last four years. It's too bad, because his instincts seem better than most of Bush's other cabinet members. On the other hand, he probably wouldn't still be around to resign if he'd gone the other way.

I've thought about the military thing, too. Bush, like it or not, is the Commander in Chief, and anybody who's been in the military long enough has had to follow orders her or she didn't agree with.

the last sec. state to re-up after a full four year term was nixon's guy william rogers and he lasted all of 9 months before being replaced by henry kissinger. prior to that, dean rusk (61-69) and john foster dulles (53-59) did it. cordell hull had it the longest consecutively (33-44) i believe. george schultz (82-89) re-upped with reagan but he'd come in half way through reagan's first term to replace al "i'm in control here" haig. i'm not bothering to go back further than that, although looking at the years from 1898-1925 there were a few who served longer than the presidents who appointed them.

i think that change is good. powell had a very, very long four years. it will be interesting to see what this cabinet looks like. i have a feeling it's gonna be a lot more colorful than many in recent memory.

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I am not surprised whatsoever. It is a real shame that the one person I respected is gone.

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completely expected.
he was the one member of the shrub-cabinet that I could tolerate.

No, he probably will be replaced by Rice, it was on the news.

Question - I haven't been following this TOO closely - are all these resignations out of personal reasons, and are they usual after a reelection, or are so many of them red up with how Bush handles things?

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I'm shocked they gave the part to Condi Rice. Did she even understudy the part? It's just sort of a rip-off that one of the understudies or swings in the Cabinet who have worked so hard since day one of this show was passed over to go for a so called quote unquote "name" like Rice. Sure, she'll probably sell tickets and introduce a whole new generation to the Administration, but where is the artistic integrity in this casting?

Poor Yasmine.

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hahahahaha. LOVE YA FOR THAT, NAMO! :-P

thwy need to fix her teeth AND they need to seriously work on how she carries herself if they/she don't want everyone to know thats he is a huge raging dyke of the janet reno variety.

Nobody is as much of a raging dyke as Janet Reno.