Crisis Line Refers Gay Youth to The Old Testament

http://www.houstonvoice.com/2005/1-28/news/localnews/crisis.cfm#Jeffrey


Love this quote:

At the end of the conversation, after an hour of dueling with Bible verses, Faircloth asked the hotline volunteer, “How would you feel if some lonely kid in the middle of Nebraska, who had never heard anything except that he is a sinner killed himself after talking to you?”

He was shocked at the man’s answer: “Sometimes the devil makes things happen.”

Updated On: 5/13/05 at 12:27 PM

Me, too. This is just a can of worms that we shouldn't even have to worry about being opened, and yet, there it is.
What if this were a Muslim gay kid? Does he deserve to be told he's sinning in the eyes of the Christian religion and the help he needs is of the religious kind?

This is the problem with faith-based funding. They're giving money, government money, to groups who then proselytize. Now, that's fundamentally wrong...and you can justify it by saying Jewish groups, Muslim groups, Wiccan groups (you know they'd never get it, although come on, let's play fair, fellas), all get funding as well...but it's clear the reason this kind of legislation was pushed through...and now people have government approval AND money to push their own agenda upon people.
The founding fathers wanted religion separate from politics to prevent this sort of thing, not to create a nation of godlesness. But how DARE a group professing to help people seek to use someone's weakness to toss a little hellfire and damnation onto their soul.
Up in Heaven, Jesus is marking a few names off the Roll Call of Eternal Life for the murder (yes, I believe this man would be culpable if a kid committed suicide after calling him) of children.

“Sometimes the devil makes things happen.”

'Cause that's just the thing you want to hear when you call a crisis hotline...

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Being a Christian I want to go up to these people and remind them of what the man they are supposed to be representing and worshipping once said, "Let those among you without sin cast the first stone." Unless they are sin free then they have no right to punish or discriminate against someone else. And no one, espeically according to those of us of the Christian faith, is without sin except for Jesus Christ. I doubt any one has the guts to claim His status.

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I believe that in order to go to Heaven all one needs to do is ask God/Jesus into your heart and ask them to forgive your sins. Its not go see if Billy Jo Bob down in Texas thinks you are living right and then we'll get back to you about it. No one here on Earth has that kind of power. Also putting oneself before God is a big no no...I wonder if that includes speaking for Him? Interesting thought there

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hey and Kel Rel the big story of Jesus' life is that it is saying even someone who IS represented as sin free still doesn't have the right to judge.

We are you we are and live the life we have, I don't understand the need of somepeople to bring their life and their needs and fears and use them against someone else. To do it in a crisis situation is beyond disgusting. We reach out to build relationships with each other, to ease the pain of the world with that aura of goodness, some call God that is inside of us. Those who are trying to manipulate destroy and cause internal pain are as bad as the most viloent of criminals.

The seminary student now gets off his soapbox.

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*blush*
you are quite good at the buttering up, I'll get the scented candles

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It can be a party. We can call up the crisis line and invite them over as well.

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PalJ, I think that's why KelRel inserted the words "*I* believe" at the beginning of his statement of what he feels to be true.

Anyway...

"Jesus never condemned a soul. He healed them, fed them, and they wandered around like a roving hippie commune, spreading the love."

I totally agree. I think that if Jesus were wandering around NYC in 2005 instead of Galilee in 25, he would be hanging out outside the gay bars with the lonely souls, sharing his french fries with the homeless alcoholic and giving a hug to the young woman who just had an abortion because her boyfriend became violently hostile over a broken condom. The fundys seem to miss that Jesus hung out with the low-lifes of society - the drunks, the whores, those who cheated the poor out of money - to show them love. He condemned the religious fundamentalists of the time, calling them "a brood of vipers," or, in today's language, "a big group of @ssholes." Interesting, that...

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Jesus just called me and said it was offically a mortal sin to vote for Spamalot. He is voting Piazza, but willing to give the Holy Spirit to Bee. The Father is a Norbert man.

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CM thanks for the defense, I am a she though and PJ I can't wait to see you there buddy. To each his or her own

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Wow, Kel, what a typo. LOL

Well said, Rose.

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