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#51

re: Cruise is dating Katie Holmes

In my experience, many gay men have loose lips (not THAT kind . . . well, maybe some) so I doubt that it could have been kept guarded all these years without something being leaked, so to speak.
#52

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You can say whatever you want about why people choose to stay in the closet, but I can not let this absolutely false statement stand. In any standard you choose to use, Ellen Degeneres, Out Lesbian, is far more successful in her career than Ellen Degeneres, Closeted Lesbian."

Actually, it's not a false statement. After she came out, and after her show got cancelled, she went through a depression for many reasons. One of them was because it was hard for her to get work. She has stated this in past interviews, therefore it is not a false statement.
Now, she is succesful, thanks to her talk show, but look at the years before.

"If you want, for some reason, to perpetrate the myth that to be successful in Hollywood you must pretend to be a heterosexual, you may do so. I myself do not think this is true, but that is merely a matter of opinion."

It is an opinion, mainly because I am living that life that you say is a myth. If you did your research on Hollywood, you would know that this has been happening since the beginning of time.

1928
"America's Sweethearts" of the 1920's, Janet Gaynor and Charles Farrell, co-stars in twelve films, were careful to keep their homosexuality out of the public spotlight."
1933
"Charles Laughton's obesity was the result of a glandular condition. His wife, Elsa Lanchester (The Bride of Frankenstein), insisted that she had no idea he was homosexual until he confessed years later."

1934
"(Claudette) Colbert claimed that her longtime marriage to an Arizona physician was a success because she and her husband retained seperate residences. A bisexual, she counted the ubiquitous Marlene Dietrich among her lovers."

1942
"Agnes Moorehead's greatest fame came with her role as Endora in the TV series bewitched. Off-camera the rumor mills had her romantically linked with her devoted, early protegee, Debbie Reynolds."


All taken from "The Academy Awards" by Gail Kinn and Jim Piazza



"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#53

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Joe, I think we were talking about the few years right after her announcement. It took her career a while to recover.

And pop - I love you.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#54

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Thank you Rath.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#55

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Sorry folks didn't mean to threadjack--Here's something to get us back on topic:

"MISSION Impossible star Tom Cruise’s stunning new girlfriend says she is a virgin. Dawson’s Creek star Katie Holmes, 26 has told pals she’s saving herself for Mr Right.”

It's also in The Sun, but Defamer is much more fun!



Defamer (Third item)
#56

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Poor Chris Klein - he really got gypped.
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#58

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"homophobe / closetcase"

I WAS JOKING! Because Tom Cruise sues anyone who even whispers the word gay anywhere around him or his name.

I do know the difference, but thanks, Justice.



Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be enbered with your old nonsense. ~ Emerson
#59

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Hmmm - closet cases can't be homophobes?

J. Edgar Hoover and Roy Cohn come to mind.
#60

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Shameless...yes, that whole thing with Tom is retarded..considering his paranoia. If he were actually straight, he would levae it alone, like most straight people do when it comes to rumors. But, by drawing attention that way is like driving down the highway in a White Bronco threatening to kill yourself.

And DGrant - in no way can you compare Tom Cruise to the hateful ****such as Roy Cohn or Hoover.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#61

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Justice - I was responding to this:
"Why would you be sleeping with people you hate or fear?"

And I wouldn't compare Cruise to anyone who is gay - because I don't think he is.
#62

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Well Justice, I don't know! Considering how careers are destroyed when the public finds out you are gay, I can't blame Tom Cruise for suing anyone who gossips about him!

TEASING, teasing!
#63

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LOL - now we're on the same page Justice :)

Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be enbered with your old nonsense. ~ Emerson
#64

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I have had issues in my personal life about this. I just don't understand why people can't be like Jodie Foster and not discuss personal lives - or even Jessica Alba, who, when asked about her love life said "I don't like to discuss these things"
Then, I found out, it's a career booster.
Queen Latifah used to tell people that they'll never find out who her fiancee is. Then, when she became a household name, she talks about marrying some dude and giving her mom grandchildren.
And DaBrat on the Surreal Life? Who is she kidding? You can't be a lipstick butch and pretend to be straight. It doesn't work that way (Which could explain the real tension between Jane Weidlen and DaBrat...competing lesbians)
But suing people for rumors? Why would people sue if it wasn't true? (Ahem...Richard Gere and Cindy Crawford)

"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#65

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Oh PLEASE?! Who does Tom think he's fooling.....
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
#67

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Oh please - we could do an entire thread on Da Brat and her issues. Who's a has-been? How about a barely was?
Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson
#69

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This relationship is a blatant publicity stunt.

Tom Cruise and John Travolta both need to come out of the closet.
#70

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Lol. Wow, Katie Holmes is living almost every young girl's fantasy. But don't you think that Tom is taking his midlife crisis a little too far?
Yes, I'm pinay. And I'm proud of it!
#71

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Tom Cruise isn't dumb. He's got more than enough money in the world to silence his lovers. And he probably only hooks up with other closet cases. Hence, the DL phenomena.

I never bought the Tom/Nicole union. She always struck me as the "man" in that marriage. It helped her career as much as it helped Tom's "leading man" status.
#72

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Interesting quote...

"I like to go out dancing,
only on the weekends and
only with my gay best
friend. He’s a repressed
performer. I think we both
are.”
— Katie Holmes in In Style magazine
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#73

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Tom Cruise will probably slap her with a 100 million dollar law suit for that.
Nothing precious, plain to see, don't make a fuss over me. Not loud, not soft, but somewhere inbetween. Say sorry, just let it be the word you mean.
#74

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Have you ever thought that Cruise might be straight.
I mean really, not every cute guy is gay.
YEESH!
I also think Cruise is talented. Katie is lucky. Even if he is gay, look at him.
He is gorgeous!

Updated On: 5/19/05 at 09:46 AM

#75

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Craig - that is too funny


Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities no doubt crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be enbered with your old nonsense. ~ Emerson

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