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DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!

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Caroline-Q-or-TBoo
#25re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 1:18pm

unfortunatly, the theater is no different. It's not about art, it's about making money.


"Picture "The View," with the wisecracking, sympathetic sweethearts of that ABC television show replaced by a panel of embittered, suffering or enraged Arab women" -the Times review of Black Eyed

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#26re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 1:20pm

"Jason, Erika, and all, I have never seen Schindler's List, Amadeus, Hotel Rwanda, Munich, or Good Night And Good Luck."

WHAT!

Oh my.. no wonder you're so delusional.

"unfortunatly, the theatre is no different. It's not about art, it's about making money."

Yes, but as playwrights, we're able to atleast have a say in what happens to our work. Playwrighting and novel writing is the truist written art form, IMO.

It sucks to be a screenwriter.

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Wanna Be A Foster
#27re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 1:23pm

Caroline-Q-or-TBoo:

Tell that to the investors who put their money out there for WELL, GREY GARDENS, or PASSION, knowing very well that that money may be lost--but they took the risk because they thought the art was worth a shot at being seen and heard out in the big leagues.


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Caroline-Q-or-TBoo
#28re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 1:26pm

yes, but did those shows succeed financially? (Obviously, we cannot speak about Grey Gardens yet)

Movie producers do the same thing, put their money in individual projects that have artistic merrit. Sometimes they succeed financially, sometimes they don't. It's still mostly about money.

The great thing for theater is that they have off-broadway. Companies like The Public, Playwrights Horzions, Atlantic etc(...) keeping alive the art.



did that make ANY sense?


"Picture "The View," with the wisecracking, sympathetic sweethearts of that ABC television show replaced by a panel of embittered, suffering or enraged Arab women" -the Times review of Black Eyed

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Fiction Writer
#29re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 1:28pm

Money makes the world go round.
But art makes it a wondeful ride?

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StageManager2
#30re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 1:51pm

FW: Caroline actually spelled it "theater." If you're going to quote someone, quote them right.


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jasonf
#31re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 3:07pm

WBF -- entertainment is something that causes you to forget about your problems for some time and experience enjoyment while doing so. While there are clearly forms of entertainment that involve more than viewing (ie atheletics, roller coasters etc.) I'm going to focus on media (visual and aural) since this is a theater board.

Some people find NASCAR to be entertainment, some find mental stimulation in the form of high art to be entertainment, some find Johnny Knoxville getting kicked in the groin repeatedly to be entertainment. Who is ANYBODY to dictate what someone else will find entertaining? Certainly not all art forms will apply to all people. While some art forms will require some more mental involvement than others (it takes a lot more work on the part of the viewer to be swept up in a Hitchcock thriller than it does to watch a Pauly Shore film - hence the difference in higher art versus baser forms), it's hard to deny the fact that many people ARE entertained by things that require no mental work whatsoever. The sad truth of our society is that most people are not that intelligent - they would prefer to watch the WWE to Arrested Development. I would tend to fall on the side of those who like using their brain for entertainement (hence my interest in most forms of theater) rather than watching Paris Hilton say "That's hot" every two seconds, but I don't begrudge anyone enjoying any form of entertainment - no matter how base it is.

Movies is an all-encompassing art form. While there are films that you can watch by just shutting off your brain and letting it flow over you, there are plenty of films (including many named already in this thread) that actively engage the mind and maybe might change the way you view the world a little bit. Even if a film doesn't revolutionize the world, what's wrong with escaping for a couple of hours into another world?


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JohnBoy2
#32re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 8:57pm

Why are we having the BWW kiddies made-up definintions of the word theater discussion again?

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StageManager2
#33re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 9:00pm

Didn't you read the first page? I complimented erika (tongue-in-cheek) and FW brought up that whole "theatre is a playhouse/theater is a cinema" myth.


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BSoBW2
#34re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 11:01pm

Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre Theatre

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#35re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 11:07pm

You're such an SoB!


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BSoBW2
#36re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 10/28/06 at 11:08pm

And YOU are such a geM!

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Elphaba
#37re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 8/7/07 at 1:18pm

hmmm, I saw Death of a President last night, and while I found some parts a bit longwinded, I liked the movie as a whole.


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Cruel_Sandwich
#38re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 8/7/07 at 1:22pm

What'd you think of the extremely awkward dubbing of "George Bush" over the name "Ronald Reagan"?

DG
#39re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 8/7/07 at 1:52pm

Cruel - are you really dismissing the film because of a minor technical glitch?

I actually found this to be a fairly disturbing piece - much more than I anticipated. And I disagree that it had nothing to say. The comments on the current administration's rush to condemn - and the reasons behind their choices - were reason enough for the movie, to me at least.

Cruel_Sandwich
#40re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 8/7/07 at 2:03pm

No, I just thought it went for the cheap and easy shock. It could have been any president.

DG
#41re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 8/7/07 at 2:06pm

I disagree - I thought the reaction was very specific to this administration, and spoke to the atmosphere that they've created.

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best12bars
#42re: DEATH OF A PRESIDENT is f***ing awful!
Posted: 8/7/07 at 2:30pm

Ahhh.

It's fun to bring back the old arguments...

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