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#1

Fire Rove

This came from the DSCC:

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Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee

Dear PALJOEY,

George Bush needs to fire Karl Rove. Now.

http://www.dscc.org/firerove

I was disgusted by the speech Rove gave earlier this week when he once again tried to use the 9/11 tragedy to divide Americans for craven political gain. Here's what he said:

"Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

This is just a shameless lie. We all saw the swell of unprecedented national unity in the wake of that terrible day. In fact, every single Senate Democrat voted to authorize the use of force against Osama bin Laden and his allies in Afghanistan.

Karl Rove is abusing the memory of 9/11 in order to score cheap political points and is spreading lies to impugn the values of Democrats who love their country, so it's time for him to go. That's why the DSCC has launched a brand new petition calling on George Bush to fire Karl Rove. Sign our petition today.

Karl Rove was speaking from prepared remarks. You know that kind of thing gets approved at the very highest levels of the White House. But he said it anyway. Why? Because he wants to distract you from the fact that George Bush and Karl Rove have no plan for success in Iraq.

What Rove said was offensive. Why he said it is disgusting. George Bush should fire him immediately.

Sincerely,

Anne Lewis
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee

http://www.dscc.org/firerove

Updated On: 6/24/05 at 03:34 PM

#2

i love karl rove

what was that aerosmith song?

oh yeah...dream on.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#3

Scoundrel Time

Another "dream on", but Rove needs to accept that he went way over the boundaries of his or anyone's job and ought to resign.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." --Dr. Johnson

"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true. And that would be unacceptable." --Carrie Fisher

Updated On: 6/24/05 at 03:54 PM

#4

Scoundrel Time

Dems are blowing this waaaaaaaay out of proportion. It's not like Rove is a Senator. It's obviously a response to the Durbin mess. They should let this go.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#5

karl's a pudgy genius

it's not a reaction to the durbin statement. it's a carefully choreographed and integrated tactic foreshadowing '06. the fact that karl used the word "liberal" as opposed to democrat is the key. liberal is still a dirty word in american politics as evidenced by most liberal groups desire to now be seen as "progressive." the words he used were carefully chosen as evidenced by the gop email that went out the next day chery-picking quotes from "progressives" which echoed the very statement that he made. the evidence is there to back up his comments.

the only sketchy commeent out of the batch is his assigning motive to some for their statements. the motive being to give aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war. but, cry all ya want, it's not getting retracted and will only bolster the case against those who choose to identify themselves with statements like george soros' "the terrorist attack on the united states could have been treated as a crime against humanity rather than an act of war. treating it as a crime would have been more appropriate." which is exactly what rovey baby was talking about.

and the hits just keep on coming...
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#6

karl's a pudgy genius

In retrospect I have to respect Rove & Co's brilliant use of 9/11 from day one. I was too overwhelmed at the time to see it as an opportunity, but they weren't: they had their first strategy meeting about the "Political Ramifications of 9/11" on 9/12 and laid out a plan: "This Changes Everything." Their use of that philosphy laid the ground work to make major shifts in the political, social and moral tone of the country, and this "Democrats can't be trusted to keep you safe" meme is just the latest incarnation. They used it perfectly in 2004 to paint the candidate with actual battle field experience as too "soft" to keep you safe.

I only wish the Democrats were this good. I would have LOVED to see Bill Clinton standing in the rubble of the Murrah Federal Building, saying "This Changes Everything" and leading major assaults on conservative organizations, shutting down right wing think tanks, and ripping into Republicans for giving our enemies aid & comfort. But instead he only caught & executed the perpetrators. Sucker.
#7

karl's a pudgy genius

It started before 9/11. Clinton wouldn't have had to stand in any rubble if he had the nerve to step around the UN. His ideas were correct, his method of implementing them were wrong.

http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/libera.htm
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#8

karl's a pudgy genius

O'Reilly said a funny thing the other night about the difference between dissenting from and undermining the war on terrorism. He wanted the Air America people locked up.

I think the Bush administration is undermining the war on terrorism. Can we please have them locked up? karl's a pudgy genius
"The gods who nurse this universe think little of mortals' cares. They sit in crowds on exclusive clouds and laugh at our love affairs. I might have had a real romance if they'd given me a chance. I loved him, but he didn't love me. I wanted him, but he didn't want me. Then the gods had a spree and indulged in another whim. Now he loves me, but I don't love him." - Cole Porter
#9

karl's a pudgy genius

"Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

-Hermann Goering 4/18/46
#10

"ROVE DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME"

So says ... arch-conservative Republican closet case Rick Santorum! The Republicans continue to melt down over this.

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The American Prospect: Tapped

RICK SANTORUM: ROVE DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME.

This afternoon, Tapped called the offices of every Republican senator and asked their press staff the following: “Does Karl Rove speak for Senator X in his recent comments on liberals and September 11?”

Several offices had no comment. Many transferred us into voicemail boxes, and we plan to call them back on Monday if they don’t respond. But we got two offices to react.

While Kay Bailey Hutchinson’s staff told us she agrees with Rove’s remarks, Rick Santorum's communications director, Robert Traynham, suggested that the Pennsylvanian had a different reaction. He told me: “Karl Rove speaks for himself. He doesn’t speak for the senator. On 9-11, there was no such thing as a Republican or a Democrat, and that’s what the senator believes.”

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So let's keep blowing, into proportion, out of proportion, it doesn't matter, as long as we get the stench of Rove's fascistic sh*t into the noses of every good American.

As Shakespeare said, "Blow, winds, and crack your cheeks. Rage, blow, You cataracts and hurricanoes, spout Till you have drenched our steeples, downed the cocks."
RICK SANTORUM: ROVE DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME
#11

karl's a pudgy genius

I think Papa has it right.
Dream on.
Dream on that republicans will do the right thing.
Dream on that republicans will be anything but bigots.
Dream on that republicans will try to unite rather than divide.
Dream on that the republicans in the white house will be anything but corrupt.

Updated On: 6/24/05 at 09:57 PM

#12

Rove Is Right: There ARE Differences

And this response from the DNC:

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Rove Is Right: There ARE Differences

White House spokesman Scott McClellan says that Karl Rove just meant that Democrats and Republicans had "different philosophies" when it comes to their reactions following 9/11. We agree. Our philosophies couldn't be more different when it comes to fighting international terrorism. Let's compare:

Democrats
Believe capturing the person primarily responsible for the attack should be a top priority.

Republicans
It's been four years, and Osama bin Laden is still free, even though Bush's CIA chief says he knows where he is.

Democrats
Investigate the intelligence failures that led to 9/11.

Republicans
Do everything in their power to block the 9/11 Commission from doing its work.

Democrats
Propose creating the Department of Homeland Security.

Republicans
Push tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.

Democrats
Believe we should have stayed the course in Afghanistan, not allowing the Taliban to resurge, the warlords to take power, and the opium trade to skyrocket.

Republicans
Ignore Afghanistan as the situation worsens.

Democrats
Believe that we should be honest with our troops about the reasons we go to war, give them everything they need to be safe, and make sure we go in with an exit plan.

Republicans
Manipulate intelligence to trump up reasons to go to war, don't give our troops the support they need, constantly mislead the public about the direction the war is going, and fail to make an exit plan. And turn Iraq into the ultimate terrorist training ground.
Rove Is Right: There ARE Differences
#13

Rove Is Right: There ARE Differences

When Rick "Man on dog" Santorum says that someone is too far to the right, they are way too far to the right.
#15

A New Yorker's response to Karl Rove:

A New Yorker's response to Karl Rove:

A New Yorker's response to Karl Rove:

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I'd like to ask Karl and his puppies to stand anywhere in the vincinity of Ground Zero and repeat Karl's fatuous, lying remarks to a crowd of New Yorkers.

Whole lotta liberals in New York. Whole lotta those liberal New Yorkers lost someone in the towers. Whole lotta liberal New Yorkers who lost someone in the towers might want to break Karl's jaw today. Karl would be well advised to keep his sorry ass out of New York from now on.

Junior got less than a quarter of the New York City vote last November, as I recall. Yeah, the people most closely affected by 9/11, who are most intimate with it, are less than impressed with Junior and his war on terra. [...]

That karma wheel keeps turnin' children. Take care.

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FYI: "Turd Blossom" is Dubya's nickname for Rove.

The Mahablog


Updated On: 6/25/05 at 12:14 AM

#16

Another New Yorker's response to Karl Rove:

Another New Yorker's response:

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As a New Yorker, I find this the equivalent of blood libel. (You know, the lie that the Jews used Christian babies blood for matzoh). No one asked what party 343 firemen belonged to when they died, or the 34 policemen. No one asked what party nine members of the 69th Regiment, New York City's own infantry regiment with a lineage going back to WW I, were when they were killed in Iraq, two of whom were immigrants, one a Pakistani muslim. No one asked and no one cared.

To say that New Yorkers, who are 5-1 Democrats, are shirking from the service of their country is an insult to them and their service. No one asked for party enrollment when they took their oath and it is wrong to suggest that it matters now. Many New Yorkers, and Califonians as well, have died in the service of their country in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The News Blog

Updated On: 6/25/05 at 12:23 AM

#17

Another New Yorker's response to Karl Rove:

I'm copying my questions from the other Rove thread:

Do you think that Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, and Rudy Guiliani--all liberals--offered "therapy and understanding for our attackers"?

Do you think that most liberal Americans did so after the attacks? Such as jrb_actor?

Do you think that given that the attacks only happened in blue states, that the blue state liberals of those 3 states (I incl DC as a state for this topic) offered "therapy and understanding for our attackers"?

I'm just curious.


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#19

The Boobs Are Back

If the statue would turn around, it could send a more appropriate message to the Republicans.
#20

Rove Is Out by Labopr Day

The sure sign that Rove's stratgies are failing are that Bush's approval rating keep sinking lower and lower and lower.

"Among Republicans (36% of adults registered to vote in the survey), 84% approve of the way Bush is handling his job and 12% disapprove.

Among Democrats (38% of adults registered to vote in the survey), 18% approve and 77% disapprove of the way Bush is handling his job.

Among Independents (26% of adults registered to vote in the survey), 17% approve and 75% disapprove of the way Bush is handling his job as president.
60% of Voters Disapprove of George W. Bush's Handling of the Economy

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