Foley is the best thing to happen to the Iraq War

[Auggie27]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 9:08am

Took it off the front page, easily. Cynical, admittedly. But with 13 Americans killed in the past few days (two more just announced), it's so much easier to worry about "protecting" our teenaged boys from a closeted queen who sold out early and well, than it is to focus on the senseless carnage. As always, the "national debate" is confined to a black/white issue -- oooh, it's really wrong to lust after teenagers in cyber space -- than to look at the moral issues in a disasterous war of choice. Our war of choice right now is a culture war. And with Foley stating "I am a gay American," we've now pointed away from sleaze and gone back to demonizing homosexuality. Cynical yet?

[JasonM12480]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 9:34am

I am so sick and tired of Congress, the government, and the world in general wasting MY money on a war we can't win, corrupt politicians, salaries for big oil companies that don't need it, and moronic presidents that purposefully mis-lead the American public. This country needs to grow up and start realizing what life is really about. I've never seen such an immature country in my life.

As for Foley, he's not a criminal. He has no past history of abusing little boys. All he did was send "dirty" emails. That does not make him a sexual predator. You can't prove anything. He didn't sleep with the boy, get him drunk, or hurt him physically. There's no case. What a waste of time for everyone involved, but as we know, the media HAS to jump at anything they possibly can to get ratings. If all the other hidden scandals came to light that the rest of the members of Congress are hiding, well - we'd have no government, as everyone would be forced to resign.

That's my rant for today.

[Auggie27]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 10:07am

I agree about Foley, yet we've already had two editorils in the NY Times yet. Beyond revealing Republican hypocrisy, and exposing yet another closet case, it's toothless

Updated On: 10/4/06 at 10:07 AM

[Auggie27]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 10:07am

I agree about Foley, yet we've already had two editorials in the NY Times yet. Beyond revealing Republican hypocrisy, and exposing yet another closet case, it's a toothless (d--kle

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 11:10am

Jason,

I do agree with most of what you said. Foley did break the law though, laws he had a hand in making. He should be arrested.

He has admitted to some of those emails and that is enough for me. There should not be a grey area in child predator cases. He deserves a fair trial, sure.

I do have questions though about this evidence.

I wonder how this pages knew to save these IMs,,, and why the really dirty ones. I mean cybersex isn't something even a 16 year old would share right? It's so weird.

This whole thing is fishy.

[JasonM12480]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 11:18am

mejusthavingfun....

Do not underestimate the power of today's 16 year olds. They're a lot more smart, intelligent, and not as innocent as they used to be when I was 16, almost 10 years ago. The whole problem is that this kind of conversation happens between people every single day, every single hour, and 16 year olds are fully conscious of having a conversation and making choices of what to talk about. I read the IM's that were posted (and really, why the media feels the public needs this information is beyond me...again, I say grow up) - that young man could have stopped anywhere in that conversation and signed offline, or just ignored him. He did not have to talk to Mark Foley, but he did. So let's not say he's a victim, because I don't see it that way.

People will save IM's anytime they think there's something that they might need to draw on for reference later on in the future. I've done it. Whatever triggered him to do it...not sure. Maybe he was out to get this guy in some weird, malicious way. It's a big waste of time, money, energy, and I'm already tired of hearing about it.

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 11:19am

Uh, these kids were discussing it among themselves AS it was happening. There are e-mails released of conversations between one of these boys and a friend, specifically when the boy forwarded the e-mails to his friends, saying, "creepy!"

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 11:43am

Well I'm interested in Foley's phone records and the possibility of other victims. Did this man ever have a real love/social life? From those IM’s it seems he is no stranger at grooming his victims. It's fascinating how his lawyer is handling all this. They won’t name the clergy by name because it is an obvious lie.

[Tom1071]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 12:01pm

I'm not saying I believe this but...it has crossed my mind that perhaps Foley is a political sacrificial lamb...a casualty for the cause so that the Republican party can further demonize homosexuals to the American public. It doesn't tax my imagination whatsoever that he might have been asked to fall on his sword. I bet he will never see the inside of a prison or a jail cell.

[mejusthavingfun]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 12:11pm

I don't believe that, but I do believe homosexuality is the flippant excuse the Republicans will allude to as being the cause. It will at least calm any anxiety from the religious right.

Fox calling him a democrat is about the same thing. To Fox, everyone that is a democrat is a liberal and liberals are crrrrazzzzy! We hug trees and hate freedom! What does any of it have to do with being a sexual predator?

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 1:17pm

gee, kinda like cbs did with william jefferson, huh?
oops, the criminal wasn't actually a republican...this time

[bwaysinger]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 1:22pm

Papa, I anxiously await the freezing over of HELL when O'Reilly publicly retracts labelling Foley a Democrat on tonight's show.
I've got my parka out and everything.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 10/4/06 at 1:28pm

heh, i guess the ap watches fox.
oops!