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Gay Pride flag and connection to Judy Garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 1:24pm

I was reading an interview with Lorna Luft in which she stated that the rainbow flag was directly connected to her mother. Now, I am a huge Judy Garland fan and understand her connection with the homosexual community but it never dawned on me that the flag would be the connection. Is it true?

Happy...Everything! Kaye Thompson

re: Gay Pride flag and connection to Judy Garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 1:26pm

stonewall, yes, but i do not think the pride flag has any relation to ms. garland.

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re: Gay Pride flag and connection to Judy Garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 1:29pm

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail.asp?id=32127

Are either one of your kids [Jesse 22, and Vanessa, 15] into showbiz?
OK, how fast can I say this? No. My son graduated from college in business, and my daughter is majoring in cell phone. I have normal kids. That’s my best achievement in my whole entire life. It’s my children. My daughter and my son, when they were really little, we were driving through West Hollywood. My son said, “Mom, can I ask you something? What’s that flag?” And I told him that was the flag for the gay community. And he said “It’s a rainbow.” And I said “Yeah?” And he asked “Does that mean it has something to do with your mom? And I said “Duh!” They loved that!

Happy...Everything! Kaye Thompson

re: Gay Pride flag and connection to Judy Garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 1:32pm

The wikipedia.com entry is a good read:
The Rainbow Flag

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re: Gay Pride flag and connection to Judy Garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 1:34pm

that's a cute story but i think it's more convenient than factual.

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re: Gay Pride flag and connection to Judy Garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 1:37pm

That was my feeling too. Thanks for the information!

Happy...Everything! Kaye Thompson

re: Gay Pride flag and connection to Judy Garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 1:38pm

That is so not true. The original Pride flag had eight stripes - teal and Magenta were removed because of the cost and ease to manufacture for the mass market. The real story can be found in a book called "Gay by the Bay" by Susan Stryker and Jim Van Buskirk. It also includes the meaning behind each color stripe.

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Updated On: 7/13/06 at 01:38 PM

re: Gay Pride flag and connection to Judy Garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 2:04pm

When you research things like this, you often find several "real true" explanations. For example, the "Rainbow Flag" was created in San Francisco in the 70's, which is a fact that cannot be denied....except....as Wikipedia points out, other nations, groups & entities had been using a "rainbow" flag for decades, maybe even centuries. So was that the time when Gay Pride became identified by a Rainbow? Or was it when Judy Garland sang "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" and homosexuals would coyly identify themselves as a "Friend of Dorothy's"? Or was it when the Stonewall Riots broke out (Coincidentally or not) aroudn the time of Judy Garland's death? In any case, Rainbows are certainly identitfied with both Gay Pride and Judy Garland.

gay pride flag and connection to judy garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 2:05pm

meaning? why spoil it with meaning?

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gay pride flag and connection to judy garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 2:54pm

wasn't there a court case of some sort about someone who claimed to have sown the first rainbow flag used as part of a gay celebration? the gay "Betsy Ross" as it were? or am I confusing that with the creator of the Memorial Quilt?

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gay pride flag and connection to judy garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 3:07pm

I think Lorna's answer to her son's question is perfect:

"Does that mean it has something to do with your mom?"

"Duh!"

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gay pride flag and connection to judy garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 4:01pm

The PACE flag is my favorite.

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gay pride flag and connection to judy garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 6:20pm

We have a Pace flag that hangs in our sanctuary on occasion.

"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near

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gay pride flag and connection to judy garland

Posted: 7/13/06 at 6:24pm

I know :)

And there's hope in the windows.

Is the same minister there? The woman? I loved her sermon over lust, where she started on about how she wants this thing so bad, and it ends up being a new Volvo.

Simply amazing.

Updated On: 7/13/06 at 06:24 PM

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