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Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!

Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!

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Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#1

Posted: 3/4/08 at 11:56am

More from today's astonishing Zogby poll--and Zogby hates Hillary:

Obama's Texas numbers have been DECREASING:

48% -- 2/26-28

45% -- 2/27-29

47% -- 2/28 - 3/1

47% -- 2/29-3/2

44% -- 3/1-3


Hillary's have been INCREASING:

42% -- 2/26-28

43% -- 2/27-29

43% -- 2/28 - 3/1

44% -- 2/29-3/2

47% -- 3/1-3

Zogby explains:

"In Texas, Hillary had a slight lead in Sunday's polling, which was enhanced by her lead in Monday's polling, and those are the figures combined into the two-day rolling average of our poll. How did she pull ahead? She clearly increased support among white men and Hispanic men, mostly based on her late campaign focusing on her fitness for military command."

And the trend is bolstered by late-deciding voters:

"Among those in Texas who were just making up their minds in the last few days, Hillary now leads by four percent, which pretty much tells the story."


Reuters/C-SPAN/Houston Chronicle Poll: Clinton Rebounds as Closing Campaign Boosts Her Barely Ahead of Obama in Texas


Updated On: 3/4/08 at 11:56 AM

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#2

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:11pm

oh god please oh god please oh god please


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#2

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:11pm

If we have learned ANYTHING in the last 8 years it's not to believe one word of the polls. I'll wait till tonight to consider what it all means.

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#3

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:13pm

I echo both taz and joe.

Don't wanna get my hopes up, but WOOOOO HOOOOO!


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#4

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:14pm

Check out this delegate counter game - it's really cool.


PS - Why is WA white? I don't understand that.
delegate counter


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Updated On: 3/4/08 at 12:14 PM

re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#5

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:15pm

Hopin' and wishin' and prayin'....

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#6

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:22pm

Keep in mind however that here in Texas you can actually win the state and not get the majority of the delegates.

Even if it's a close win Obama will be likely be getting far more votes from places like Houston and Dallas with large black communities. While it would be good for Hillary to stop Obama's momentum, it would take a substantial win for her to really make up enough ground in the delegate count.

re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#7

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:31pm

I think it will be a good day for Clinton, but not good enough.

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#8

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:40pm

Today WILL be a good day for Hillary! She wins Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island. I think Vermont is the only lost cause. I hope she can get at least 50% or more to get the most delegates.


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#9

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:44pm

I believe the delegate count - incl. Ohio, Vermont and Rhode Island - will tighten up by tomorrow morning, with a slight lead for Obama. I've been astonished by Obama's winning streak and the love affair the mainstream media has been conducting with him. I've read alot about him, including his own autobiography and books and articles that are laudatory - the more I read, the more I dislike him. What he lacks is any real passion over any issues. He's a conciliator, a compromiser, who has surface charm. I don't hate him; he's a nice guy. But I also think he will be a disaster as President. I like Hillary more, and yes, she's made terrible mistakes and would continue to do dumb things as President, but she does have passion over certain important issues, and hopefully learned from the mistakes of her husband's presidency. My hope is that Hillary wins in Ohio, and at least comes close in Texas, so the race can continue. I think the exact opposite of most pundits: the longer the focus remains on these 2 democrats, the better it will be for them in November.

re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#10

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:44pm

I believe the delegate count - incl. Ohio, Vermont and Rhode Island - will tighten up by tomorrow morning, with a slight lead for Obama. I've been astonished by Obama's winning streak and the love affair the mainstream media has been conducting with him. I've read alot about him, including his own autobiography and books and articles that are laudatory - the more I read, the more I dislike him. What he lacks is any real passion over any issues. He's a conciliator, a compromiser, who has surface charm. I don't hate him; he's a nice guy. But I also think he will be a disaster as President. I like Hillary more, and yes, she's made terrible mistakes and would continue to do dumb things as President, but she does have passion over certain important issues, and hopefully learned from the mistakes of her husband's presidency. My hope is that Hillary wins in Ohio, and at least comes close in Texas, so the race can continue. I think the exact opposite of most pundits: the longer the focus remains on these 2 democrats, the better it will be for them in November.

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#11

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:44pm

The delegate counter game I linked above shows how she can win the states but still not get the most delegates.


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#12

Posted: 3/4/08 at 12:53pm

Winning Texas and Ohio is big in that if she wins Penn as well, she will have won all the large states as well as the 3 main swing states. That's a big deal and could seal the deal with the superdelegates.


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#13

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:22pm

I wouldn't trust the polls in anything this primary, they have been consistently wrong. The only ones that seem to be right most of time are the Las Vegas odds makers. Anybody know what the odds are for the Texas primary?

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#14

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:24pm

I did my part for Hillary in Dallas this morning, and I will return for the caucus this evening. Unfortunately, I live in a house divided, with the two others supporting Barack. Fortunately, one of them is unavailable to attend the caucus.


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#15

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:27pm

http://politicalbetting.bestbetting.com/Default.aspx?market=45922370

Dunno if this is a good source. Dunno what it even all means lol.


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#16

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:28pm

Washington Post/ABC Poll:

"Two-thirds of Democrats say a victory in either Ohio or Texas would be reason enough for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) to keep her historic bid for the party's presidential nomination alive, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll."
If Clinton Wins in Ohio or Texas, Most Democrats Want Her to Stay in the Race


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#17

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:28pm

Can you recap what it says, I can't go to that site from work.

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#18

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:30pm

Texas:
Bookmaker/Betting Exchange
Barack Obama 4/6 0.61/1
Hilary Clinton 11/10 1.28/1


Updated On: 3/4/08 at 01:30 PM

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#19

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:31pm

Ohio
Bookmaker/Betting Exchange
Hilary Clinton 1/8 0.19/1
Barack Obama 9/2 4.4/1


This may just be one web sites rankings. I am clueless about this stuff. May have nothing to do with Vegas.


Updated On: 3/4/08 at 01:31 PM

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#20

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:34pm

You can't read BroadwayWorld but not the Washington Post?

It's basically that paragraph I quoted plus this:

* 29 percent of Democrats said Clinton should drop out if she loses one of the two big states

* 51 percent said she should quite if she loses both.


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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#21

Posted: 3/4/08 at 1:49pm

"You can read BroadwayWorld but not the Washington Post?"

Pretty screwed up, isn't it?

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re: Hillary REVERSES the Obama Trend--in TEXAS!#22

Posted: 3/4/08 at 2:02pm

I neutralized your vote, DBillyP. I voted on the first day of Early voting for Senator Obama. I'll be caucusing tonight as well.

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hillary rising#23

Posted: 3/4/08 at 2:07pm

i read an interesting theory that has there being a lack of spanish language polling in texas which would idicate that a significant number of voters is being left out. her support in that demographic is legion.

oh, and republicans are crossing party lines in droves to vote for her. droves.


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hillary rising#24

Posted: 3/4/08 at 2:12pm

Between the Republicans who are crossing party lines to vote for Hillary and the Republicans who are crossing party lines to vote for Obama, you guys don't have much of a party left, do you?



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