Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Borstalboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/9/04
#1Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 4:53pm
The Blockbuster is Falling Apart
#2Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 4:58pmIt WOULD be awesome to see great films again, and not something that has to be part of a franchise.
#2Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 5:34pmThe pendulum will swing back. It always does.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#3Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 6:18pmNothing worse than in a bad economy, rich Hollywood types whining that they can't get funding for their projects. Fund your own work if it's so important. Work on the same small scale as Woody Allen if you must.
#4Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 6:19pm
From 'The AV Club' article:
"Not long ago, foreign box office accounted for about 20 percent of a film’s gross; now it accounts for about 80 percent. (According to Obst, China will surpass America as Hollywood’s No. 1 market by 2020.)"
That pendulum is not swinging back any time soon--it represents a fundamental shift in the economics of film-making/distribution.
#5Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 7:00pm
Actually, I agree with Sodonbergh and Spielberg. Also I don't think that anyone who wants to make a decent film should be forced to go down the Indie way, much less respected veterans like the ones mentioned in the article. Hollywood is an American institution and as such it deserves great films.
That article was completely biased. Why did he had to trash Les Mis?
#6Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 7:28pm
The best movie of the year was part of a franchise though: Before Midnight.
Addison is right- it's all about the foreign gross now. It doesn't matter that The Lone Ranger and After Earth were massive bombs here. They will easily both make their money back overseas.
And even though there have been several high profile disasters this summer, the box office receipts have mostly surpassed last year week for week, and I believe June set an all-time record for a monthly gross. (If you don't read boxofficemojo.com every week and are interested in this topic, you should check it out.)
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#7Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 8:08pm
I just can't take Spielberg complaining about any of this seriously.
Fox after he eats everybody in the henhouse: "Even *I* can't find any chickens!"
#8Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 8:29pm
Since many of these major studios green-lit A LOT of projects akin to the movies that failed and do not seem to be stopping (have you checked what is in store for 2015?) judging from the Comic-Con roll-out the backtracking is not going to be immediately. Heck, I remember reading reaction from unnamed industry/Disney people about how badly The Lone Ranger performed and one of them thought they hit a home run in how it was made and thought it just didn't work out. When the audience rejects your movie and more than a few critics question its quality or why Disney would greenlight it in the first place you cannot just wipe yourself off and act like, 'Well, it was still OUR movie'. Disney in particular just appears to be betting on Marvel properties (which has included some nice surprises like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man even existing) and Pixar, although it seems plagued with sequelitis too, while these expensive, over-budget popcorn passion projects are failing around them.
"The best movie of the year was part of a franchise though: Before Midnight."
This is going to be said by so many critics by the end of the year.
There are still good movies out there but they've been relegated to slow roll-outs in big cities and at repertory theaters and some of those movie theaters need to make compromises. My local art house cinema had to show both Man of Steel and World War Z for a couple of weeks so the theater is able to show the latest Almodovar and Stories We Tell.
The movies that got hurt were the medium-sized adult-oriented movies that were relegated to indie or even pushed the creative people who wanted to make those movies to television. Those movies moved to the indie also really effected the indie scene that has become generic. People can cold-read a 'Sundance movie' a mile away. It still blows my mind that Magic Mike was not considered a home run by a major studio that the whole project was essentially bankrolled by Channing Tatum and Soderbergh.
Updated On: 7/25/13 at 08:29 PM
#9Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 8:56pm
The slow roll-outs can be annoying. Look at Blue Jasmine this weekend. This is a major "little" movie, with big movie stars and directed by one of the most famous and celebrated filmmakers ever. Yet it won't be playing at an AMC for weeks to come. I'll make the trek down to the Angelika to see it, but something as high-profile and anticipated should be getting a much wider release right away.
It's for movies to gross any money when people can't see them.
#10Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 10:50pmHollywood has been dying every 10 years since talkies came in.
#11Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/25/13 at 11:04pm
Hollywood will implode the rise again with a small sleeper hit. I do think the CGI mega run away from the explosion, has reached it's limit. People do end up wanting substance to their entertainment.
Look at the box office draw of The Conjuring has turned in. It has a retro feel and people are flocking to it!
Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#12Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/26/13 at 12:03pmI don't see that BEFORE MIDNIGHT is a franchise film in the way that the other films are. Yeah, part of an ongoing series, but it certainly didn't set out that way, and it doesn't have the massive pop-culture machines behind it. It is closer to Truffaut's Doinel films -- just occasional films that happen to focus on the same character(s).
#13Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/26/13 at 12:19pmI would love for Hollywood to give us the amount of tickets sold instead of the amount of money each film makes. I think its very misleading.
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Joined: 12/31/69
#14Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/26/13 at 12:33pm
Those "Before Dawn/ Until Midnight/ After 4:30 This Afternoon" movies where that smelly looking couple yap all night are UNENDURABLE. Bring back Ma & Pa Kettle!
Updated On: 7/26/13 at 12:33 PM
#15Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/26/13 at 1:12pm
According to Obst, China will surpass America as Hollywood’s No. 1 market by 2020."
What does that even mean? Will future Hollywood movies be Chinese-oriented in plot and characters? Will the studios/industry relocate to China?
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#16Hollywood Paradigm Shift?
Posted: 7/26/13 at 2:39pm
That just means that Hollywood will receive most of its profits from China.
Hollywood has always been about making money and they'll do whatever it takes to appease its biggest customer base. That depends on if Hollywood gives into China's demands. Read up on Despicable Me and its sequel. Both movies did not open in China due to whatever restrictions the Chinese government puts on its movies.
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