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“I wish I didn’t have to shave every day. … I’d like to smell better."

SPRINGFIELD — Several Illinois lawmakers mocked sex changes and the idea of debating the subject Tuesday before rejecting a measure that would have made it easier to get a new birth certificate after switching genders.

One representative compared sex changes to voodoo and joked that he had thought about getting one so he wouldn’t have to shave. Another suggested the House could be debating more important matters.

The man presiding over the debate spoke in a falsetto as he called for a vote, although he ended up supporting the measure. The sponsor said she was “ashamed” of the comments.

It would have made it easier for people to change the gender on their birth certificate after undergoing a sex change in another country. Illinois law already allows birth certificates to be changed if the patient produces an affidavit from the doctor who performed the procedure. But affidavits from foreign doctors are not recognized, Feigenholtz said.

Her bill would have allowed U.S. doctors to examine patients and sign an affidavit saying they’d undergone a permanent sex change, whether through surgery or hormone treatments. She said some people cannot undergo surgery but can have their gender permanently changed through other treatments.

Rep. Bill Black, a Danville Republican, said he objects to recognizing non-surgical sex changes.

“Maybe you went somewhere and a voodoo doctor said you were now a man, where you had been a woman,” Black said.

“I’ve often thought that perhaps I was a female trapped in a male body. I know — it scares me, too,” he said to hoots from his colleagues. “I wish I didn’t have to shave every day. … I’d like to smell better. I’d like to have softer skin.”


Republican Rep. Chapin Rose, joked that the state might start issuing sex-change documents to deer.“How do you possibly — possibly — bring this forward when there’s so much this body needs to be considering?” Rose asked Feigenholtz. Rep. Art Turner, a Chicago Democrat, was presiding over the chamber during the debate and switched to a falsetto voice to ask, “Have all voted who wish?”

If anyone would like to express their opinions on this matter;

Representative William B. Black (R)
7 E. Fairchild
Danville, IL 61832
(217) 431-1986
(217) 431-2088 FAX

Representative Chapin Rose (R)
1113 Lincoln Avenue
Charleston, IL 61920
(217) 348-7673
(217) 348-7677 FAX

Representative Arthur L. Turner (D)
3849 W. Ogden Avenue
Chicago, IL 60623
(773) 277-4700
(773) 277-4703 FAX

The sponsor of the bill could use some support, also:
Representative Sara Feigenholtz (D)
1051 W. Belmont
Chicago, IL 60657
(773) 296-4141
(773) 296-0993 FAX










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re: “I wish I didn’t have to shave every day. … I’d like to smell better.'

I just love the transcripts of state legislatures...they always make me so proud of the political process, if that alone isn't a good reason to pay state reps a decent wage so that normal civilized and educated people have incentive to run -- then darnit, nothing is.

The US Congress is pretty bad sometimes too...but they seem to be a bit less idiotic, but that is because of the cameras in the chamber.
"I'm a one-eyed Mormon Democrat from conservative Arizona, and you can't have a higher handicap than that." ~The ever-great and fabulous Morris K. Udall.
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“i wish i didn’t have to shave every day. … i’d like to smell better.'

ah, it's good to see republicans and democrats in agreement, isn't it?
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#4

“i wish i didn’t have to shave every day. … i’d like to smell better.'

Yep Papa that occured to me when I read the story-- the one thing that both parties can agree on!

And for those of you not from Illinois, Deer are the major issue here. Too many deer where we don't want 'em, too few where we do want 'em, Deer causing accidents, Deer as the victim of accidents.

That's why that legislator made the otherwise inscrutable comment about deer getting sex-changes.
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“i wish i didn’t have to shave every day. … i’d like to smell better.'

but deer sex is a partisan wedge issue.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#8

“i wish i didn’t have to shave every day. … i’d like to smell better.'

it's disgusting that 65 years after the death of bambi's mother, a pivotal figure in the deer sex rights movement allegedly killed by a drunken prescott bush, that deer are still second class citizens.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#10

“i wish i didn’t have to shave every day. … i’d like to smell better.'

oh, i dunno, amanda. your existence would seem to argue against your statement.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#13

“i wish i didn’t have to shave every day. … i’d like to smell better.'

gmta, cheeze, gmta.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#14

“i wish i didn’t have to shave every day. … i’d like to smell better.'

Amanda...perhaps even God drops a stitch now and again...especially she S/He has allowed the genus Homo sapiens to evolve of a period of millions of years. The environmental changes alone have been staggering. And for anyone who has even taken the most primitive biology course it has been well documented there are at least 23 different combinations of the sex genes that go well beyond XX or XY.



"I'm a one-eyed Mormon Democrat from conservative Arizona, and you can't have a higher handicap than that." ~The ever-great and fabulous Morris K. Udall.

Updated On: 4/18/07 at 03:53 PM

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“i wish i didn’t have to shave every day. … i’d like to smell better.'

cheezedoodle - gotta love all these fundy type who get all their information, both moral and scientific, from the good book-- which has been translated so many times, it would be virtually impossible to figure out the true word of God after thousands of years of very human and therefore fallible meddling

I recall my Dad quoting something from it at me once.
My response?
Pointing out the words "King James Version".

reminds me of the words from Scarecrow "if only I had a brain" -- instead of a Bible to form an opinion on something as mystical in nature as biology.

"I'm a one-eyed Mormon Democrat from conservative Arizona, and you can't have a higher handicap than that." ~The ever-great and fabulous Morris K. Udall.

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