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“I wish I didn’t have to shave every day. … I’d like to smell better."
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:02pm
SPRINGFIELD — Several Illinois lawmakers mocked sex changes and the idea of debating the subject Tuesday before rejecting a measure that would have made it easier to get a new birth certificate after switching genders.
One representative compared sex changes to voodoo and joked that he had thought about getting one so he wouldn’t have to shave. Another suggested the House could be debating more important matters.
The man presiding over the debate spoke in a falsetto as he called for a vote, although he ended up supporting the measure. The sponsor said she was “ashamed” of the comments.
It would have made it easier for people to change the gender on their birth certificate after undergoing a sex change in another country. Illinois law already allows birth certificates to be changed if the patient produces an affidavit from the doctor who performed the procedure. But affidavits from foreign doctors are not recognized, Feigenholtz said.
Her bill would have allowed U.S. doctors to examine patients and sign an affidavit saying they’d undergone a permanent sex change, whether through surgery or hormone treatments. She said some people cannot undergo surgery but can have their gender permanently changed through other treatments.
Rep. Bill Black, a Danville Republican, said he objects to recognizing non-surgical sex changes.
“Maybe you went somewhere and a voodoo doctor said you were now a man, where you had been a woman,” Black said.
“I’ve often thought that perhaps I was a female trapped in a male body. I know — it scares me, too,” he said to hoots from his colleagues. “I wish I didn’t have to shave every day. … I’d like to smell better. I’d like to have softer skin.”
Republican Rep. Chapin Rose, joked that the state might start issuing sex-change documents to deer.“How do you possibly — possibly — bring this forward when there’s so much this body needs to be considering?” Rose asked Feigenholtz. Rep. Art Turner, a Chicago Democrat, was presiding over the chamber during the debate and switched to a falsetto voice to ask, “Have all voted who wish?”
If anyone would like to express their opinions on this matter;
Representative William B. Black (R)
7 E. Fairchild
Danville, IL 61832
(217) 431-1986
(217) 431-2088 FAX
Representative Chapin Rose (R)
1113 Lincoln Avenue
Charleston, IL 61920
(217) 348-7673
(217) 348-7677 FAX
Representative Arthur L. Turner (D)
3849 W. Ogden Avenue
Chicago, IL 60623
(773) 277-4700
(773) 277-4703 FAX
The sponsor of the bill could use some support, also:
Representative Sara Feigenholtz (D)
1051 W. Belmont
Chicago, IL 60657
(773) 296-4141
(773) 296-0993 FAX
The whole story
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:11pm
I just love the transcripts of state legislatures...they always make me so proud of the political process, if that alone isn't a good reason to pay state reps a decent wage so that normal civilized and educated people have incentive to run -- then darnit, nothing is.
The US Congress is pretty bad sometimes too...but they seem to be a bit less idiotic, but that is because of the cameras in the chamber.
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:13pmah, it's good to see republicans and democrats in agreement, isn't it?
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:19pm
Yep Papa that occured to me when I read the story-- the one thing that both parties can agree on!
And for those of you not from Illinois, Deer are the major issue here. Too many deer where we don't want 'em, too few where we do want 'em, Deer causing accidents, Deer as the victim of accidents.
That's why that legislator made the otherwise inscrutable comment about deer getting sex-changes.
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:21pm
Ignorance is not a "Republican" or "Democrat" issue.
Ignorance is ignorance. No matter how fancy you dress it up.
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:22pmbut deer sex is a partisan wedge issue.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:24pm
Well, Deer haven't had rights for years. They're waiting in line after the gays, and after the Latinos...then the Deer get their chance for equal rights.
But only in that order, of course.
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:34pmit's disgusting that 65 years after the death of bambi's mother, a pivotal figure in the deer sex rights movement allegedly killed by a drunken prescott bush, that deer are still second class citizens.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:42pmCause sometimes even GOD gets it wrong.
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:45pmoh, i dunno, amanda. your existence would seem to argue against your statement.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:45pm
Yes Amanda - we know - but then you keep showing up and proving that wrong.
papa - same mind, same time stamp!
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:46pm
You're right, amanda. I mean, God obviously made you a moron. Why change that?
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:48pmgmta, cheeze, gmta.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:53pm
Amanda...perhaps even God drops a stitch now and again...especially she S/He has allowed the genus Homo sapiens to evolve of a period of millions of years. The environmental changes alone have been staggering. And for anyone who has even taken the most primitive biology course it has been well documented there are at least 23 different combinations of the sex genes that go well beyond XX or XY.
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 3:55pmToo bad that's not in the bible Radigal - it might have actually sunk in by now.
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Posted: 4/18/07 at 4:44pm
cheezedoodle - gotta love all these fundy type who get all their information, both moral and scientific, from the good book-- which has been translated so many times, it would be virtually impossible to figure out the true word of God after thousands of years of very human and therefore fallible meddling
I recall my Dad quoting something from it at me once.
My response?
Pointing out the words "King James Version".
reminds me of the words from Scarecrow "if only I had a brain" -- instead of a Bible to form an opinion on something as mystical in nature as biology.
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Posted: 4/19/07 at 10:45amYou never make any sense. And not everyone believes in God.
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Posted: 4/19/07 at 10:51amI thought this was going to be about some dumbass as campaign, kind of like the one for that osteoporosis pill. You know, "My girlfriend has to remember to take her pill every day..."
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Posted: 4/19/07 at 10:53amC'mon Rose - she has to set aside time EVERY DAY to take that pill! Who has time for that sh!t??? You have to get a glass of water and everything.
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Posted: 4/19/07 at 10:59amI know! And then you have to go to the sink to fill it up, and then you have to put the damn thing in your mouth. Isn't there a more convenient way to take meds?? This hassle is madness!
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