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Joni Mitchell Never Lies

I was listening to a little Joni Mitchell and realized I don't think I've ever seen her discussed on the board, and since her songs are so dramatic and literary (in the best sense of each word) I thought the folks here at BWW might love her as much as I do.

I know that there are a lot of boardsters who weren't born when Joni conquered the world, so first, a history. A Canadian who moved to Detroit and then California, Joni was the most talented of the folk-rock singer songwriter boom of the early 70's. Her first flush of success came with the hits "Both Sides Now" (made popular by Judy Collins, containing the spine tingling lyric "Moons & Junes and ferris wheels, the dizzy, dancing way it feels as every fairy tale comes real, I've looked at love that way") and then "Big Yellow Taxi" (With the lyrical gem "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.") In 1973 she hit made it really big with the album "Court & Spark" and it's multiple pop top 40 singles. After a few more pop gems, she started to follow her eccentric muse further afield with explorations of jazz, world music and symphonic compositions.

She's fallen out of mainstream favor, but still influences a lot of current stars. She made the top five on a recent poll of the all time greatest women in rock & roll. Janet Jackson recently sampled her and Counting Crows had a comeback hit with their cover of "Big Yellow Taxi." "Love Actually" featured a new version of "Both Sides Now" that brought the song to new levels and stopped the show.

So give Joni a listen; If you haven't heard her before there is a lot to love. Try the easy pop of Court & Spark, often featured in Record stores' "Under $10" sales. Or try a good "Best of" collection "Hits"- which Joni released paired with a collection of her favorites songs that didn't really make it big, amusingly called "Misses." Or pick up one of her recent collections: "Dreamland" is pretty straighforward, a career spanning retrospective. I also recommend "Travelogue" an amazingly audacious collection where Joni selected many of her favorite songs and re-recorded them with a symphony orchestra, bringing a new depth to her words and music.

So favorite songs? The hits, and so much more: "Free Man in Paris" Joni's biography of her pal record label owner David Geffen. "Come in From the Cold" a later song looking back at childhood desires. "Woodstock," her thoughts that it all came together because "Maybe it's the time of year, or maybe it's the time of Man" Perhaps my favorite is "California" where she recaps the failure of the VietNam peace talks with the chilling lines "Sitting in a park in Paris France, reading the news and it sure looks bad! They won't give peace a chance-- that was just a dream some of us had."

Some of us still dream, and when we do, we listen to Joni-- Joni Mitchell never lies!
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I defy anybody to listen to "The River" and not cry...it's impossible.
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Gosh how could I have forgotten River? "Coming on Christmas, they're cutting down trees...singing songs of joy & peace. I wish I had a river I could sail away on...."

Truly a magnificent song which does indeed make me cry, even if I hear it on Mall Xmas Muzak tapes.
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i love her! i love the song on Court and Spark that goes...

"my analyst told me,
she said i was right outta my head"

that song is the number one played on my iPod
"Picture "The View," with the wisecracking, sympathetic sweethearts of that ABC television show replaced by a panel of embittered, suffering or enraged Arab women" -the Times review of Black Eyed
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I've got more than five Joni CDs on my iPod.
LOVE her!

Carrie get out your cane.. I'll put on my finest silver... go down to the Mermaid Cafe have fun tonight... I said oh you're a mean ole daddy but you're out of sight...
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
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I'm a fan. Favorites remain Roses Blue, For Free, and Blue in its entirety.
Sueleen Gay: "Here you go, Bitch, now go make some fukcing lemonade." 10/28/10
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Woke up it was a Chelsea Morning..
They are the Ladies Of The Canyon...
Bar and Grill..
In France They Kiss on Main Street...
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
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OK...add all of Ladies of the Canyon to my list of favorites, too.
Sueleen Gay: "Here you go, Bitch, now go make some fukcing lemonade." 10/28/10
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When I first saw your gallery, I liked the ones of Ladies...
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
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Actually, Joni has been brought up a few times on this board, although not recently. I love all of her music and listen to it when I'm painting. Her lyrics and that beautiful voice put me into a frame of mind that fosters creativity. Some of my best work can be partially attributed to Joni's influence.

A few years ago she was being honored at the Kennedy Center and they telivised the show (I taped it, somehow lost the tape and have kicked myself in the butt ever since). Joni sat in her box seat watching contemporary artists sing her music. Every time the camera panned up to her, there she was lighting another cigarette and flicking the ashes into an ashtray set on the railing. I thought "Now there is a respected legend because nobody else could ever get away with chain smoking in the Kennedy Center."

The River is one of the most beautiful and haunting songs. My favorite cd of hers though is Court And Spark. Also, in her last cd, Both Sides, her new renditions of A Case Of You and Both Sides are unbelievable. In "Both Sides" the song has taken on a totally different tone. It's an older, more experienced woman, looking at life and love in a more realistic, less idealistic way. You can hear in her voice that she has lived through it and can now look back and really see both sides clearly. In "A Case Of You", the original version always sounded to me like she was yearning for that man who was aloof, treated her badly or just didn't care enough. In the newer version, again, age and experience show. She sings it like she has resigned herself to teh fact that everyone has their flaws and you either adjust to it or give up on them if you can't deal. There is a tone of letting go, accepting that he may not be there and understanding that life is that way sometimes.

Ok, I'll stop rambling. It's just taht I am so influenced by the poetry that is her music that once I get on the topic, I get carried away....it's almost like seeing Light In The Piazza.


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My favourite is "A Case of You" -- "I remember that time you told me, 'love is touching souls'; surely you touched mine, 'cause part of you pours out of me in these lines from time to time."

And, of course, "Blue": has anyone ever written a more beautiful ode to a colour? Joni's right up there with Leonard Cohen as one of the greatest folk songwriters ever.
BlueWizard's blog: The Rambling Corner HEDWIG: "The road is my home. In reflecting upon the people whom I have come upon in my travels, I cannot help but think of the people who have come upon me."
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Orion I am so glad you mentioned the way her songs have taken on new meanings as she's grown older; Sometime an artist will re-record songs just to try to generate a few more dollars, but Joni has re-examined her old songs on a few new albums and every time it's brought out some new meanings-- and yes, her two versions of "Both Sides Now" REALLY show a shift in perspective. Dazzling!

And I can't believe I forgot "A Case of You!" "I could drink a case of you, and still be on my feet" is SUCH a sexy line!
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I heard the most recent Both Sides Now the other night at Fluff and decided I want to purchase the CD.
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
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That's right I don't lie. re: Joni Mitchell Never Lies Thanks for being so kind.
Dov'`e mia luce, mio cor?
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A woman must have everything.
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
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don't it always seem to go,
that you don't know what you've got, til it's gone
You pay paradise, and put up a parking lot......
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story... AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
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This is timely. A couple of weeks ago I heard a snatch of 'Chelsea Morning' on the radio, a song I vaguely remembered from my childhood and have started to look into Joni Mitchells music. Does she still perform? What does she do now? Anyone know?
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Love- Raised on Robbery & Jazzman and In Paris ( title?)
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I would go so far as to call Joni the most artistic person living. Always true to her soul. Even when she was pressured by her label to produce a "hit" she turned it into a slam against the commercial music industry.
If you have the chance there are two DVDs that are wonderful portraits of Joni. One is called "Painting with words and Music." It features Joni in concert in a small intimate setting singing songs that span her entire career while showcasing her paintings.
The other is a documentary called "Joni Mitchell: A Life Story" and captures her true artistry in documentary form with some great archival footage.
Both are available in a two-disk set.

Or just go get Blue or Court and Spark as a primer to her music.
Brilliant.

Joni DVD Set
PEACE.

Updated On: 6/19/05 at 01:32 PM

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He thought for sure I'd seen him
Dancin up a river in the dark
Lookin for a woman to Court and Spark.....
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
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And what a sense of humor...


YOU TURN ME ON (I'M A RADIO)

If you’re driving into town
With a dark cloud above you
Dial in the number
Who’s bound to love you
Oh honey you turn me on
I’m a radio
I’m a country station
I’m a little bit corny
I’m a wildwood flower
Waving for you
Broadcasting tower
Waving for you
And I’m sending you out
This signal here
I hope you can pick it up
Loud and clear
I know you don’t like weak women
You get bored so quick
And you don’t like strong women
’cause they’re hip to your tricks
It’s been dirty for dirty
Down the line
But you know
I come when you whistle
When you’re loving and kind
But if you’ve got too many doubts
If there’s no good reception for me
Then tune me out, ’cause honey
Who needs the static
It hurts the head
And you wind up cracking
And the day goes dismal
From breakfast barney
To the sign-off prayer
What a sorry face you get to wear
I’m going to tell you again now
If you’re still listening there
If you’re driving into town
With a dark cloud above you
Dial in the number
Who’s bound to love you
If you’re lying on the beach
With the transistor going
Kick off the sandflies honey
The love’s still flowing
If your head says forget it
But your heart’s still smoking
Call me at the station
The lines are open


PEACE.
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Alterego, she doesn't perform much these days. A few years back she put out a cd entitled Both Sides, a colection of jazz standards done in her own style and a couple of her old hits, A Case Of You and Both Sides, done with a hwole new outlook and tone...see my above message.

She did a brief tour following the release of that cd but nothing since. She can't really sing the same as she used to. Years of heavy smoking has lowered her voice considerably. She does paint, is a wonderful artist on canvas just as she is in song writing. I think she has pretty much settled into retirement and paints. She also appeares to like her young boy toys judging from the young man on her arm at the Kennedy Center Honors. She has money, her art, most likely still writes songs for others and has younger men....if I had all that, I'd just sit back and relax too.
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Daylight falls upon the path
The Forrest falls behind
Today I am not prey to dark uncertainty
The shadow trembles in it's wrath
I've robbed it's blackness blind
And tasted sunlight as my fear came clear to me
I think I understand
Feels like a wilder-land
Stepping stones or sinking sands

Now the way leads to the hills
Above the steeples chime
Below me sleepy rooftops round the harbor
It's there I'll take my thirsty fill of friendship over wine
Forgetting fear but never disregarding her
Oh I think I understand
Feels like a wilder-land
Stepping stones and sinking sand

Sometime voices in the night
Recall me back again
Back along the pathway of the troubled man
When Forrest tries to block the light
That keeps a traveler sane
I challenge them with flashes from a brighter time
Oh, I think I understand
Feels like a wilder-land
Stepping stones or sinking sand....



" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."

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