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#26

re: Looks Like It's Over for Poor George Bush

As the president's polls go down, the Democrats courage rises.

I wish it were otherwise, but that's politics.

Meanwhile, we have work to do. We have a president to impeach.
#27

re: Looks Like It's Over for Poor George Bush

Action... I'm all for it.

The Democrats need a little bit more than courage, they need a clear direction. A goal. That's why we've been getting our a$$ kicked... we get this big lead, but at election time don't deliver.
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Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. - Randy Pausch

#28

re: Looks Like It's Over for Poor George Bush

riiiight, if so many people don't like Bush (and to be honest i haven't spoke to any Americans who had many positive things to say at all) how did he get re-ellected? As much as i hate Tony Blair and labour i knew he would get it back. I didn't vote for him and never will... but the British are frightened of change unfortunately and the stiff upper lip prevents from it!
Jesus Loves You... Everybody else thinks you're an idiot!
#29

re: Looks Like It's Over for Poor George Bush

He got re-elected because he was thought to be better than the Democratic alternative. Also, I don't think we've ever switched Presidents during a war due to anything other than death or non-running.
#30

silliness on parade

hmmmm, what can we do to change the subject from the fact that we caved on janice rogers brown, billy bob pryor and prissy owen who were described often and loudly as the worst possible candidates for receiving life-giving oxygen, much less judgeships? hah!! i know, we'll engage in a mutual masturbation session in which we fantasize about an impeachment that has as much chance of happening as a free and fair democratic election in iran.

yeeeeaahhhhh, that's the ticket.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#31

silliness on parade

I'll be reading The Politics Presidents Make and telling myself Bush is Teddy Roosevelt.
#32

silliness on parade

It's time for Mr. Bush to be...
IMPEACHED! IMPEACHED!
What the puck?!
#33

silliness on parade

Once again: Go read the Constitution and tell me whether you really think that's going to happen.
#34

silliness on parade

Of course it won't happen, but a girl can still dream, can't she?
And I still want to know why getting blown in office is a more heinous offense than perpetuating a lie that has gotten thousands of Americans and Iraqis killed.

*edited because I cannot spell tonight.
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Updated On: 6/17/05 at 10:29 PM

#35

silliness on parade

in the spirit of cut and paste and with a grin, i offer the washington post's take on recent congressional action on the memo and the fact that once again we're just covering for plum's people.

Democrats Play House To Rally Against the War

By Dana Milbank
Washington Post
Friday, June 17, 2005; Page A06

In the Capitol basement yesterday, long-suffering House Democrats took a trip to the land of make-believe.

They pretended a small conference room was the Judiciary Committee hearing room, draping white linens over folding tables to make them look like witness tables and bringing in cardboard name tags and extra flags to make the whole thing look official.

Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) banged a large wooden gavel and got the other lawmakers to call him "Mr. Chairman." He liked that so much that he started calling himself "the chairman" and spouted other chairmanly phrases, such as "unanimous consent" and "without objection so ordered." The dress-up game looked realistic enough on C-SPAN, so two dozen more Democrats came downstairs to play along.

The session was a mock impeachment inquiry over the Iraq war. As luck would have it, all four of the witnesses agreed that President Bush lied to the nation and was guilty of high crimes -- and that a British memo on "fixed" intelligence that surfaced last month was the smoking gun equivalent to the Watergate tapes. Conyers was having so much fun that he ignored aides' entreaties to end the session.

"At the next hearing," he told his colleagues, "we could use a little subpoena power." That brought the house down.

As Conyers and his hearty band of playmates know, subpoena power and other perks of a real committee are but a fantasy unless Democrats can regain the majority in the House. But that's only one of the obstacles they're up against as they try to convince America that the "Downing Street Memo" is important.

A search of the congressional record yesterday found that of the 535 members of Congress, only one -- Conyers -- had mentioned the memo on the floor of either chamber. House Democratic leaders did not join in Conyers's session, and Senate Democrats, who have the power to hold such events in real committee rooms, have not troubled themselves.

The hearing was only nominally about the Downing Street Memo and its assertion that in the summer of 2002 Bush was already determined to go to war and was making the intelligence fit his case. Joseph C. Wilson IV, a former ambassador whose wife was outed as a CIA operative, barely mentioned the memo in his opening statement. Cindy Sheehan, who lost a son in Iraq, said the memo "only confirms what I already suspected."

No matter: The lawmakers and the witnesses saw this as a chance to rally against the war. Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) proclaimed it "one of the biggest scandals in the history of this country." Conyers said the memos "establish a prima facie case of going to war under false pretenses." Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) concluded that "the time has come to get out" of Iraq.

The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration "neocons" so "the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world." He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

"Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation," McGovern said. "The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic."

Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq's threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his "candid answer."

At Democratic headquarters, where an overflow crowd watched the hearing on television, activists handed out documents repeating two accusations -- that an Israeli company had warning of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that there was an "insider trading scam" on 9/11 -- that previously has been used to suggest Israel was behind the attacks.

The event organizer, Democrats.com, distributed stickers saying "Bush lied/100,000 people died." One man's T-shirt proclaimed, "Whether you like Bush or not, he's still an incompetent liar," while a large poster of Uncle Sam announced: "Got kids? I want yours for cannon fodder."

Conyers's firm hand on the gavel could not prevent something of a free-for-all; at one point, a former State Department worker rose from the audience to propose criminal charges against Bush officials. Early in the hearing, somebody accidentally turned off the lights; later, a witness knocked down a flag. Matters were even worse at Democratic headquarters, where the C-SPAN feed ended after just an hour, causing the activists to groan and one to shout "Conspiracy!"

The glitches and the antiwar theatrics proved something of a distraction from the message the organizers aimed to deliver: that for the Bush White House, as lawyer John C. Bonifaz put it, the British memo is "the equivalent to the revelation that there was a taping system in the Nixon White House."

Of course, Democrats controlled the real committees back then -- though Conyers was not deterred. "We have a lot of work to do as a result of this first panel," he told his colleagues. " 'Tis the beginning of our work."
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#36

silliness on parade

...Sorry, I blanked out after the words "Washington Post." Doesn't anyone believe in linking to articles?

Updated On: 6/17/05 at 10:46 PM

#37

silliness on parade

sorry, i got caught up in the spirit of the cut and paste...
democrats play house
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#38

Downing Street Memos

Does skimming the article count?

Look, people are dismissing the memos as unimportant because they're only confirming what anti-war people have been saying all along: that the Bush Administration shaped intelligence to suit their preferred result- Iraq having WMDs. But people saying that and having actual, written proof of it are two very different things. The memos are important because they take the case against the Bushies' pre-war moves from "plausible-sounding conspiracy theory" to something real, backed up by actual political chatter at the time in question.
#39

down on the street

the way i read it, it's hearsay, being a recounting of another's conversation but you're the legal expert.
down on the street with meee-moh!
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#40

down on the street

This might be a symptom of reading waaaay too many news feeds, but I'm pretty sure Bob Woodward reported something similar. Or was that hearsay, too? Like I said, I'm pretty addled right now from lack of sleep and reading too many stories.
#41

down on the street

It's just like the initial reaction to the Pentagon Papers: a bunch of frightened Republicans running around like Frank Morgan in The Wizard of Oz:

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! Go! Before I lose my temper! The Great--and POWERFUL!--Oz...has...spoken..."

If only George Bush had a brain... If only Dick Cheney had a heart... If only Donald Rumsfeld had courage...
#42

down on the street

I'll have you know that Dick Cheney has a perfectly functional artificial blood-pumping device somewhere beneath his sternum.
#43

down on the street

I for one like Bush. But I totally disagree with his views on gay marriage, I have many friends with same sex parents, and they are great people, smart, and funny, if not more so than me.

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