Marriage Amendment Passes in Virginia :(:(- Page 2

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 11/8/06 at 3:09pm

Adam and Eve had a really tacky wedding.

Noone came.

[Elphaba]

Posted: 11/8/06 at 9:08pm

oh that snake of a brother-in-law came....

[Elphaba]

Posted: 11/8/06 at 9:09pm

Because God made Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve.


uh really? Funny, I thought according to your beliefs God made everything, hence he made Adam and Steve.....

[popular_elphie]

Posted: 11/8/06 at 9:39pm

Thank God I will be moving out of this state next year.

[MatthewAddison]

Posted: 11/9/06 at 4:51am

I'm sure somewhere in Virginia a Conservative Christian couple who voted for the amendment is hiring their gay wedding planner...

(And the dirt eating article was fascinating! I would like to meet Fannie Glass and make a musical out of her!)

[Mamie]

Posted: 11/9/06 at 5:43am

For the life of me, I can't figure out why state and federal governments have any business getting involved in ANYBODY's marriage - no matter who the couples are. The unfortunate fact is that governments have legislated rights to married couples and those rights should belong to everyone - even singles. I know that saying things like this puts me in the John Lennon "Imagine there's no government" camp, but I've always felt this way.

Having said all that - I still found the tiniest flicker of light when I read that 43% of Virginians opposed the bill. Believe me - for this State, that is REAL progress!

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/9/06 at 8:08am

And with 7 million Virginians, that means that there are 3,010,000 good people in the state of Virginia.

Thank you to those 3 million good Virginians!

[javero]

Posted: 11/9/06 at 9:45am

I have a question for this group. How can any state get away with providing a service to a particular set of taxpayers at the exclusion of others, e.g. civil marriage??? I'm neither gay nor an attorney but think that the states sealed their own fate years ago when they entered the civil marriage business by allowing magistrates and/or justices of the peace to legally bind two adults in a marriage contract. I still put the term of art "marriage contract" out there because any set of promises enforceable by law between two parties is a contract. In the case of a civil marriage/ceremony, one of the consequences of entering that "contract" is the assignment of individual personal property (and debt) to the couple. All US citizens and residents also have a federal constitutional right to free association. Which brings me to my final question on the matter of same-sex marriage. How can the nation permit the states to bar two consenting adults irrespective of their chromosome pair from entering into the "marriage contract" via a civil ceremony? In my view, the States must either get out of the marriage business altogether or offer the same "service" to all eligible couples. The Church in any form can do whatever it likes.

Updated On: 11/9/06 at 09:45 AM

[Flippancy]

Posted: 11/9/06 at 9:56am

My two cents.

While I think that a large part of the opposition to 'same sex marriage' is the conservative outrage at such a proposition, I also think that a part of it is financial. Imagine the millions of dollars that would be doled out to same-sex partners in spousal benefits, death benefits, pensions, etc. should marriage or civil unions become legal.

Don't kid yourself -- corporations and government don't want it anymore than the "christian right"...and the reasons are entirely monetary.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 11/9/06 at 10:20am

Actually, a lot of corporations have granted spousal equivalency benefits.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 11/9/06 at 12:29pm

Tom, the issue itself should make anyone sick to their stomach. Not that there's a ban, but the issue itself. But of course, most democrats(liberals) disagree with that. There are though, a handful of democrats who are pro-life. Just as there are reps who are pro-choice. The ones who are pro-life I respect.

[DivaBrigader]

Posted: 11/9/06 at 1:13pm

The church can refuse to marry same sex couples all it wants. However, when it comes to law, law can't be based on religious belief as one of the cornerstones of America is freedom of religion. People have the right to be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, athiest, agnostic, Wiccan, etc. etc. Not all religions hold the same beliefs about God's words on homosexuality and not all Christians believe it either. To say that marriage should only be between a man and a woman because God said so is imposing one religious ideology on the people of America which directly goes against one of the very reasons that our ancestors came here from England.