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McCain Trashes Gay Parents

McCain Trashes Gay Parents

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PalJoey
#1McCain Trashes Gay Parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 10:17am

Reason # 37,476 why I am voting for Obama over McCain, despite my reservations about Obama.

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McCain, who with his wife, Cindy, has an adopted daughter, said flatly that he opposed allowing gay couples to adopt. "I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don’t believe in gay adoption."
McCain’s Conservative Model? Roosevelt (Theodore, That Is)


Roscoe
#2re: McCain Trashes Gay Parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 10:35am

Evidently it is better for one of the parents to be a prescription drug abuser who looted her own non-profit organization to satisfy her addiction than for both of them to be gay.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Roscoe
#2re: McCain Trashes Gay Parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 10:38am

PFLAG responds:


McCain Would Deny Loving Homes to Children Who Desperately Need Them


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

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romantico
#3re: McCain Trashes Gay Parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 11:37am

Didn't McCain at one point (like in 2000) say he was for Gay adoption and marriage? I remember at one time really liking McCain to the point I suggested swapping Liberman as a Republican and McCain as a Democrat. I could be mistaken,but I thought at one time he was rather gay friendly.


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Borstalboy
#4re: McCain Trashes Gay Parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 11:46am

"Weather vane" McCain switch sides on an issue? Piffle!


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

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ExceedinglyPeculiar2
#5re: McCain Trashes Gay Parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 11:53am

Pff please. "I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family." Who is "we"?


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amalou
#6re: McCain Trashes Gay Parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 12:17pm

He is simply unfit to lead this country. Times are changing and grandpa still thinks it's the 1950's.

I admit I got this from The Daily Show so that doesn't count as me "doing my research" but there's that clip of him floating around where someone asked him about insurance covering viagra but not birth control and his whole attitude about it was just like "I'm not gonna touch that one."

He gets so squeamish about issues that are relevant to many, many people in this country. It does not inspire much confidence.


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papalovesmambo
#7johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 12:23pm

thank you for that ass-toot commentary.


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Phyllis Rogers Stone
#8johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 12:45pm

Yeah, that Obama's really one for touching the hot-potato issues.

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PalJoey
#9johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 12:46pm

Was that addressed to McCain's ass-toot?


DG
#10johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 12:47pm

Thanks for the sig quote, papa!

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papalovesmambo
#11johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 12:48pm

oh please, pj, you know his toots are all muffled by the diaper.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#12johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 12:55pm

Was that addressed to McCain's ass-toot?

Was that question for me? If so, yes.

Namaste
#13johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 3:01pm

Papa, defend your candidate! (That is, if you agree with him.)

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papalovesmambo
#14johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 3:10pm

oh, as usual i've found an area on which i happen to disagree with my candidate. it's not a deal breaker for me as the president cannot pass legislation and there's really little chance for there to be a gop majority in either house in the near term (4-6 years).


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#15johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 3:22pm

Wow so a disagreement on one issue doesn't make you threaten to withhold your vote or demand that one of the losing primary candidates get back in the race? You don't expect your candidate to mirror your beliefs 100%?

No wonder you Republicans win all the time.

Roscoe
#16johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 3:36pm

And everybody knows that McCain's own dad was a big old queen. Four Star Admiral John McCain Jr. was a known frequenter of gay bars, where his antics earned him the name of "Missy Kneepads" McCain.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

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Borstalboy
#17johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 3:43pm

"Lazy Susan" McCain?


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papalovesmambo
#18johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 4:05pm

eh, better'n bammy's daddy who participated in the ritual mutilation and executions of gays and lesbians in kenya and was known by the cheery nickname of "fag hacker."


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

Roscoe
#19johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 4:11pm

Yeah, I hate that about Barack.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/

Namaste
#20johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 4:39pm

What's that saying? "The apple doesn't far fall from the tree."

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Borstalboy
#21johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 4:46pm

Weather Vane McCain does what he does best!

From salon.com:

John Kenneth Galbraith once said that "nothing is so admirable in politics as a short memory."

If they're still searching for a campaign motto, staffers for John McCain might want to keep Galbraith's words in mind.

Just days after McCain told the New York Times, "I don't believe in gay adoption," on Tuesday his campaign reversed field on the issue.

In a statement sent to the Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan, McCain's director of communications, Jill Hazelbaker, said that McCain "could have been clearer in the interview in stating that his position on gay adoption is that it is a state issue." She also emphasized that McCain was not "endorsing any federal legislation" regarding the issue -- this suggests that he would not pursue a constitutional amendment to ban gay adoption.

Hazelbaker concluded by saying that while McCain "believes children should be raised by a mother and father if at all possible ... he recognizes that there are many abandoned children who have yet to find homes. McCain believes that in those situations caring parental figures are better for the child than the alternative."

So what's McCain's real stance on the issue? As Steve Benen points out, it's probably not one he'd be comfortable telling Ellen DeGeneres about. McCain has a long career of pursuing anti-gay-rights policies: In 2005, he supported an Arizona amendment to change the state's Constitution to ban same-sex marriage, and he has expressed his opposition to civil unions numerous times.
― Vincent Rossmeier


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali
Updated On: 7/15/08 at 04:46 PM

Roscoe
#22johnny mac loves the gays, just not as parents
Posted: 7/15/08 at 4:55pm

Yeah, another "clarification" of what McCain didn't say.


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/


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