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Microsoft and Gay Rights

From Salon.com:

Maybe Microsoft isn't the Great Satan that it once was -- in the public imagination, Wal-Mart has pretty much overtaken that role -- but there are still plenty of folks who hold a special place in the darkest corners of their hearts for the world's largest software company.

According to The Stranger, an alternative weekly from Seattle, there's a whole new reason to dislike Microsoft: The company, the paper says, withdrew its support from legislation in the state of Washington that would have outlawed discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. The bill was defeated in the Washington Senate this afternoon, 25-24.

According to The Stranger, Microsoft withdrew its support for the bill after the leader of a mega-church from Redmond threatened a boycott of Microsoft's products. Earlier this month, the paper says, a Microsoft senior vice president told a group of gay and lesbian employees about the threatened boycott -- and explained that Microsoft would henceforth be "neutral" on a bill it had previously supported. War Room contacted Microsoft for a response this morning; while a member of Microsoft's "rapid response" PR team promised us we'd be hearing from a Microsoft spokeswoman promptly, we're still waiting.

Although Microsoft is generally considered a gay-friendly employer, news that it may have waffled on the anti-discrimination measure -- especially in the face of a single threat from an NFL linebacker-turned-evangelical-minister -- has gay-rights activists none too happy with the company. "Apparently, Microsoft's new motto is 'your potential, our passion, as long as you're not gay or lesbian,'" Dan Kully, a spokesman for Equal Rights Washington, told us this afternooon. Earlier today, John Aravosis of AMERICAblog suggested in an open letter to Microsoft that advocates of gay rights in Washington could retaliate against the company by organizing concentrated local opposition to its plan to expand its Redmond campus.

"You may have thought 'Hell, the evangelicals boycott us, the gays boycott us -- we've got to choose one, and the evangelicals are in power, so let's screw the gays,'" Aravosis wrote. "But here's something you didn't count on. You messed with the wrong faggots." Aravosis wrote those words just as the story of Microsoft's position on the bill was first making the rounds on the internet -- and before the state senate had rejected the bill by a single vote. If Microsoft was beginning to feel the pain then, we can only imagine what life is like in Redmond right now.

-- Tim Grieve


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali
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i hate microsoft anyway. This doesnt surprise me. (but thanks for the article)
#3

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Wow... I live in Seattle, live up the road from Microsoft, and hadn't heard this. Thanks!


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#4

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Microsoft makes some absolute crap products.

and absolute crap decisions and policies, too, apparently.
There's always room for pathos - and jazz hands.
#5

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This is starting to pick up steam here. After so many years of being so progressive, they're saying something to the effect that they didn't want to alienate their christian employees by supporting the bill. That's bullS@%T. They're bowing to the pressure of a local pastor, and indirectly saying they're ok with the discrimations of gays and lesbians in the workplace here in Washington state.

Time to get something started...
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#6

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I'm just sad that we need a law to outlaw discrimination. Wha?
"Some of us have it worse, you know, Dana. Some of us are dating lesbian men. Okay? C'mon."
#7

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We need a Larry Kramer for the 21st Century...somebody that's gonna kick, scream, make a scene, organize and shame the general public.
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More from Salon.com:

There's taking the company line, and then there's the job Microsoft spokeswoman Tami Begasse has to do when called upon to defend the company's flip-flop on a Washington state bill that would have outlawed discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

Microsoft has a good reputation on gay rights issues, and it clearly would like to keep it. Thus, when we talked to Begasse this afternoon, we heard a lot about the benefits Microsoft provides to domestic partners and such. But when we asked for an explanation for why Microsoft went from supporting the Washington bill to being neutral on it, we got variations on the same two sentences -- over and over again -- that Microsoft provided to the New York Times yesterday. "We made a decision before this legislative session, as we do each year, that we would focus our energy on a limited number of issues that are directly related to our business," Begasse told us. "That decision was not influenced by external factors."

The "outside factors" in question would be threats of a boycott Microsoft received from Ken Hutcherson, the minister of a mega-church in Redmond, Wash. Begasse insisted that Microsoft made its decision to switch from supporting the anti-discrimination bill to being neutral on it before meeting with Hutcherson. The reason? We got the line about "focusing our energy on a limited number of issues" again.

But here's the part that doesn't make sense. If Microsoft wanted to "focus" its "energy" on a "limited number of issues" in the current legislative session, it could have just left matters as they were. Begasse told us that, while Microsoft sent out a letter last year in support of the bill, it had never lobbied actively on its behalf. So why not leave it at that? Microsoft didn't have to do anything more, and it would have been free to "focus" its energy on other legislation. But by changing its position on the anti-discrimination bill from "support" to "neutral," Microsoft did focus on the issue -- it had to inform the sponsor of the legislation, it had to meet with gay and lesbian employees, and now it's had to take a lot of criticism for the late-game switch. If Microsoft really wanted to preserve its resources to "focus" on issues closer to the core of its business, wouldn't it have been better to remain in support of the bill and leave it at that?

We asked Begasse that question as many ways as we could, and the answer was always the same. "We did move to a neutral position on the bill, but it was in order to focus our energies on legislative issues that are directly related to our business," Begasse said. "It wasn't influenced by external factors."

Got it?

-- Tim Grieve



"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali
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Why aren't more people up in arms about this?

This is a pretty big deal. It might be WA state, but that's now. This could influence what happens in other states. Microsoft has set a terrible example.

And believe me, I am not one to just bad-mouth MS for whatever reason. I've long been on "their side". I benefited from their domestic partner laws, wonderful insurance. Hell, they're the reason I live in Seattle. That's why I'm taking this stance of theirs so personally.

I am glad I no longer use explorer (use firefox), media player (use iTunes now), and switched from hotmail to google. Little things, I know. But it's a start. And whenever possible, will not use their products.

This is one time that instead of just ranting on a board, we can actually do something, even small things, about it.
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It's frightening -- and a wake-up call -- in the context of the general climate of constant pandering to the fundamentalists. Or fear of "alienating" them. The idea that one pastor, in one church, could intimidate such a corporation speaks volumes about the state of the State.

As Whoopie Goldberg says, gay people are the new blacks -- the last group it's hip to bash and get away with it. And a group that brings up more fear and loathing in the straight white male culture than anything that precedes. it. (Did anyone hear that low wattage Joe Scarborough on Bill Maher last night?? He sat there and said he personally feels homosexuality is a sin, like adultery. Period. This is supposedly a thinking "moderate".)

Whoever said we need a new Larry Kramer is right.


"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
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The man dubbed "The Right Hand of God" has fingerprints all over Microsoft. Still.

Ralph Reed is more than a Friend of Bill -- he is a paid GOP consultant, getting $20,000 a month from Microsoft to help shape the software behemoth's image in the global marketplace.

Judging from Reed's past -- he was the former head of the evangelical Christian Coalition -- that means serving up vitriolic viewpoints about gays and lesbians.

Judging from Microsoft's actions -- the company just yanked its support of a legislative bill in Olympia to protect gays -- the Reed brand of insight is shining through.

Microsoft yesterday confirmed its ongoing relationship with Reed, who raised eyebrows five years ago when he turned up on Microsoft's payroll. At the time, Reed was a hired gun. His charge was to influence future President George W. Bush to support Microsoft in its antitrust battle with the Justice Department.

Some observers figured Microsoft would wipe its hands clean of Reed back then. That didn't happen.

Financial documents posted this week to a Web log show Reed's relationship is far cozier than I imagined when I hinted at his red-state influence on Microsoft on Monday.

Microsoft has been paying Reed's company, Century Strategies, the $20,000 monthly fee since at least November, according to the blog, though Microsoft officials yesterday described the relationship as going back "several years."

Century Strategies, which has offices in Georgia and Washington, D.C., is being paid for expertise "on international trade and competition issues," Microsoft spokesman Mark Murray told me yesterday. "Century Strategies has never advised Microsoft on any social policy issues, including the anti-discrimination legislation."

Murray, who confirmed the accuracy of the information posted on the Americablog Web site, adds, "We do work with a number of consultants, Republicans and Democrats."

This much is true. Microsoft, though, fails to see the bigger picture. What is most troubling here is Reed's bedside relationship with Microsoft around the same time the company backtracked suddenly from gay rights legislation it had embraced just a year ago.

From the outside, it appears Microsoft was influenced by Reed -- a man who has President Bush's ear, has a following of millions of conservative Christians who think homosexuality is a sin, and who pushes the evangelical agenda every chance he gets.

Microsoft may not have hired Reed for his social views, but once he gets in the door it's a full-on Holy Roller revival.

Pastor Ken Hutcherson of Antioch Bible Church on the Eastside shares Reed's mind-set. As The Stranger first reported last week, the minister turned up the heat on Microsoft, which is progressive about gay rights in its workplace. Hutcherson wanted Microsoft to back away from its support of the bill and earlier this year had the audacity to ask the company to take a public stand against gay rights.

The bill died last week.

Microsoft took a neutral position, though the company says it arrived at its decision about the bill in December -- before Hutcherson knocked on the door. The minister says he is the one who moved Microsoft, threatening a boycott.

But even before Hutcherson raised a fuss, Reed was doling out compassionate conservative consulting to Microsoft.

Microsoft's backpedaling has the mark of fundamentalist zealotry and Century Strategies stamped all over it. The consulting company has a reputation for rounding up Christian opposition to dish out a right-wing force-feeding.

And Microsoft swallowed.

Does this make the Redmond-based company a symbol of corporate evil? No.

It does show how Microsoft allowed itself to be manhandled by outside forces and become misguided.

Bill Gates and Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer say they personally support gay rights. Both of them are now going through the kind of introspection that makes Hamlet look stoic. Microsoft's struggle -- to be socially progressive or not to be -- raises philosophical questions that would cause angst for any company, much less an industry leader.

Should a company reflect the views of its CEO or its corporate board? Or is a company ultimately responsible to shareholders and the bottom line?

When should a company get involved in politics? Must a company's public position match its internal policies? What does a company do when some employees embrace issues such as gay rights while others do not?

Where does all of this fit in with a company's responsibility to be a good corporate citizen?

Arriving at the answers is a doozy -- and Microsoft deserves some credit for now doing soul searching.

This is also true: When Microsoft faced the question of the gay rights bill it let the right hand of God draw the line in the sand in the wrong place.

P-I columnist Robert L. Jamieson Jr.
"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali
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"Because Microsoft had supported versions of the bill in years past, gay rights activists suggested the company had caved to the religious right. Liberal blogs have lit up with scathing comments and rallying cries to buy machines from Microsoft rival Apple Computer Inc., to quit using Microsoft Internet Explorer to browse the Web, and to close Microsoft Hotmail e-mail accounts."
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It's interesting how many people think "oh well, there's nothing I can do", and continue to do nothing. It's the little things that can make a difference.
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I think it's sad that, when pressed, being inclusive is the choice NOT taken for fear of offending.
What a downright shame that inclusiveness is offensive...but that's the United States in which we live.
Get in line or get out.
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From Salon.com:

The Stranger, the Seattle weekly that broke the story of Microsoft's flip-flop on a gay rights measure, is out with a follow-up that seems to put the lie to Microsoft's spin on its change of heart.

When we talked with Microsoft spokeswoman Tami Begasse last week, she dismissed the notion that Microsoft had caved in to threats from an evangelical minister named Ken Hutcherson by claiming that Microsoft had decided to abandon a Washington state anti-discrimination bill before company officials ever met with Hutcherson.

In the new report from The Stranger, Hutcherson tells a different story. He says he met with Microsoft General Counsel Bradford Smith on Feb. 23 to complain that two Microsoft employees had testified in favor of the gay rights bill. At that meeting, Hutcherson says, Smith told him that Microsoft was supporting the anti-discrimination bill then pending in the Washington legislature as a "civil rights issue." That characterization stuck in the mind of Hutcherson, an African-American man who played professional football before becoming the minister of a Redmond, Wash., mega-church.

Hutcherson says he told Smith that he'd organize a national boycott of Microsoft's products if the company didn't change its position. Hutcherson says he told Smith: "You’re not going to like me in your world. I am going to give you something to fear Christians about." Hutcherson met with Smith a second time in March, he says, and at that point Smith said that Microsoft had decided to change its position on the bill.

Smith tells The Stranger that it didn't happen that way. He says that he told Hutcherson at their first meeting that Microsoft "hadn't taken a position on the bill." That doesn't square with Microsoft's admission that it had, in fact, taken a position on the bill before -- it supported it in the prior legislative session. Further, as AMERICAblog's John Aravosis points out, Smith's version of the story is hard to reconcile with statements from a Washington state legislator who sponsored the bill and members of a gay and lesbian Microsoft employees group. They all say that they heard about Microsoft's flip-flop on the bill only after Smith's second meeting with Hutcherson, and that when Smith told them about the change he discussed it as if it was recent news -- and not as some allocation of lobbying resources made much earlier, as Microsoft and Smith have claimed.

Now the world's largest software maker finds itself caught in the middle. Gay rights groups are outraged that a company they considered an ally has abandoned them, and Hutcherson is angry with the company for not giving him the credit he deserves for causing the switch. "The company lied, and 'the Black Man' is not going to lie down and say 'OK,'" Hutcherson tells The Stranger. "Evidently, they don’t know that I won’t keep my mouth shut about unrighteousness."

-- Tim Grieve

[09:18 EDT, April 28, 2005]






"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali
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Good one, PJ.

"Evidently, they don’t know that I won’t keep my mouth shut about unrighteousness."

That's the thing, they are outspoken and take action. What are WE doing?
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I LOVE Americablog.

***Edit***
I am rolling on the floor laughing right now.
I have just read the friggin' funniest thing I have ever read about Ann Coulter. Ever.
But I cannot post the link here, it is far too adult. PM me if you want it.

Updated On: 4/28/05 at 12:06 PM

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You know what's funny (and what relates) is that anti-gay Christians (in trying to paint gays and lesbians as anything BUT victims) go on and on about how wealthy gays and lesbians are.

And, they are right. We are more likely to afford to buy computers. So, why is Microsoft shooting itself in the foot?

It's funny. People in this country actually believe that the religious right is all powerful right now. Not only are they not truly--their reign of terror is about to crash and burn.
johnraymondbarker.com
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"So, why is Microsoft shooting itself in the foot?"

Because the GLBT community and their allies aren't DOING anything about it. And the thing is, we "could" do it. Look at the Coors boycott of the 80's and 90's, and look at how Coors kisses our a$$ now.
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GATES-GATE
What You Can Do to Punish Microsoft for Abandoning Civil Rights
by John Aravosis

www.thestranger.com


In the past year we've watched the radical right and their allies in the Bush administration grow increasingly bold as they attempt to impose their own warped vision of morality on the rest of America. Whether it's education (evolution out, creationism in), our relationships (promoting some marriages, banning others), an independent judiciary (attacks on "activist"
judges), or our most personal decisions (Terri Schiavo), the political hubris of the religious right and their elected henchmen no longer knows any bounds.

Where is the progressive response?

Most of the traditional liberal groups are nowhere to be found. And when they do respond, it's with boring fact sheets and well-intentioned arguments about how we deserve to win, really we do. The left treats political battles as if they were high-school debates while the right wages total war.

And we are finally paying the price. We're no longer making progress, we're falling back. Our latest Waterloo: Microsoft.

Microsoft withdrew its support for the Washington State gay rights bill, legislation that lost in the Washington State Senate by only one vote. Microsoft's public relations flacks would like us to focus on whether or not Microsoft reversed its position to please one radical-right activist. But that discussion is a red herring. Microsoft didn't abandon years of support for gay civil rights merely because a single preacher complained. Something else influenced their decision, something far more dangerous. Microsoft caved in the face of an anti-gay and anti-left culture war that's been gaining ground for years. The pressure from the religious right was more than the company's senior management was willing to bear.

That is not to exonerate Microsoft. Plenty of corporate America's finest names, from Boeing to Nike, remained steadfast in their support for Washington's gay rights bill. Unlike Microsoft, those companies haven't turned their backs on fairness and equality.

At least not yet.

Microsoft's capitulation is a sign that the religious right has not only compromised our government, our schools, our media, and soon our courts, but they also are targeting corporate America. Of even greater concern is the message that Microsoft's capitulation sends to the rest of the business community. Whatever one thinks of Bill Gates, the man knows how to make
money. If Bill Gates no longer thinks defending gays rights is good business, other corporate leaders will follow his lead.

Unless we get up and fight.

Too many people on the left think engaging in battle is beneath us--it's something a "Republican" would do, and we're so much better than that. But you don't have to fight dirty to fight back. You can beat the bejesus out of your opponent fairly. The alternative, not responding at all, or responding with a chorus of "Kumbaya," is no longer going to cut it.

So what should you do?

If you're a Microsoft employee who believes in equality, know that progressives stand with you, tell us how we can help, and raise hell from inside--protests, press conferences, leaks are all good.

If you're a gay rights group, grow a spine and fight back. We have to draw the line in the sand here, or other companies will soon follow Microsoft's lead. For inspiration, look to Equal Rights Washington, which demanded Microsoft fire $20,000-a-month consultant Ralph Reed (the former head of the Christian Coalition), and the Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Center, which gave
Microsoft a diversity award in 2001 and is now demanding it back.

Consider finally making the switch. The Mac mini at $500 is an affordable test-drive for anyone considering switching to Apple.

Switch web browsers. If you currently use Microsoft's Internet Explorer, use Mozilla's Firefox instead (www.mozilla.org). It's way better.

Contact Microsoft and bitch, loudly and often. Inundate your local papers with letters to the editor--they work. Every time you see a senior exec from Microsoft, give him or her an earful.

Stay tuned to AMERICAblog.org. We have more actions and more info coming soon.

Microsoft has been a leader in protecting and promoting equality for more than a decade, but now it has lost its way. Together we can get Bill Gates back on the right track.


John Aravosis is the editor of AMERICAblog.org.

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A corporation is an "amoral" entity, whose sole purpose is to create profit and enrich its shareholders. To expect a Corporation to take a "moral" stand is foolish, and is to disregard the fundamentals of capitalism. To the extent that a coporation's leadership determines that taking a political position is good for its profits, they may choose to do so. Microsoft does not support workplace diversity because it is the morally "right" thing to do, but rather as a tool to attract and keep the best quality employees; that increases their profit.

If Microsoft's research showed that the path to the greatest profits lay in keyboards lined with seal-pup fur, they would become the world's largest consumer of dead baby seals.

If we can demonstrate that an actively pro-gay position is the path to the highest profits, they will act accordingly.

It's an interesting opportunity for us to evaluate how strongly MS values the gay market segment; will there be a significant placating gesture to us or just Steve Ballmer's 2,000 word email that said nothing? Of course, it has a lot to do with how much noise we make and how long we can keep the story on the front page.
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