OT- 3 cheers for the Massachusetts Supreme Court

[Albin]

Posted: 11/18/03 at 6:04pm

Massachusetts: No legal reason to ban marriage

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 11/18/03 at 6:07pm

A.) I was planning on a LOT more than 3 cheers
B.) See?? Some peopel DO have common sense.
C.) Now... let's all put that armour on 'cause the right bigots are gonna be out in FULL force about this one. Those fundies are gonna be PUSHING that crock of $#2! ammendment of there's now. This boi is ready for soem fightin'.. just as soon as I finish celebratin'

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 11/18/03 at 6:12pm

not a big fan of marriage in general (my take is we should de-mystify it civilly and let it be religious like it started out). If we NEED to allow for the privileges of marriage civilly, start calling it "domestic partnership" and leave the genders out of it. But basically, for me, you should get breaks on insurance and taxes and health benefits for two reasons: a dependent child or a dependent elderly relative. Neither has anything to do with your sex life. It has to do with your obligation to support someone who can't support themselves.

But this decision is a step in the right direction. i just wish the morals some associate with marriage would stay in churches, where they belong. More power to them there.

[orion59]

Posted: 11/19/03 at 8:11am

I agree with you Tex, marriage itself is ridiculous. A domestic partnership between two people shouldn't need to sanctioned by law or church, it should just exist. However, as long as marriage is the only was to receive the benefits and recognition, we're stuck with it and need to try to maintain the right to have it.

It's also not just the issue of tax breaks and health benefits but other important issues that come up in a partnership. I know first hand, for instance, what it's like to hav a partner of manyt years be in a hospital emergency room an not be able to get info on his condition because I wasn't considered family. If marriage is the only way to get around things like that then I'll do it. I'll allow the state to say it's okay in their eyes for me to have chosen the person I did.

[iflitifloat]

Posted: 11/19/03 at 8:26am

One of the most irritating ironies is when you hear someone who is on their fourth or fifth hetero marriage boo-hoo-ing about how same sex marriage desecrates the sacred union...

[MasterLcZ]

Posted: 11/19/03 at 8:40am

I'm looking forward to Gay Alimony.

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 11/20/03 at 12:25pm

wasn't there (isn't there) already "palimony" for non-marriage unions, as long as the lawyers are bright enough?

[MasterLcZ]

Posted: 11/20/03 at 12:50pm

Yeah, Tex (Rock Hudson's ex sued the estate for that), but I want huge tabloid-blaring screaming courtroom scenes: "You're nothing but a cheap, gold-digging tramp!" "I never SAID I loved you, you impotent old fool! Not even Viagra helps!"

Is is only then (and when Gay parents can prove they can be as every bit as unfit and abusive as straight married couples) that true equality will be achieved.

[TxTwoStep]

Posted: 11/20/03 at 1:14pm

there's "equal" and then there's "evolved"...i'd shoot for the improvement.

[JKB2]

Posted: 11/20/03 at 10:30pm

Definitely an occasion for three cheers and then some. I didn't think we'd have anyone in officialdom being this reasonable any time soon, in the current political climate.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 11/21/03 at 1:33am

I'm terrified of the backlash. But seriously, how can anyone (who can actually remove religion and bigotry from the argument) listen to both sides and actually stay anti-gay marriage? I MAY be biased, but the right's argument is not strong when one thinks about it fairly. The sad thing is---I think many people believe the "lies" and rhetoric enough. It's sad.

And regardless of whether marriage is a good or bad thing, the point is that all Americans should have equal rights and the equal opportunity to make a choice.