Obama Goes Off The Road
Obama Goes Off The Road
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
Obama Goes Off The Road#1
Posted: 9/12/09 at 11:57am
In a really boneheaded move (amongst many), he has slapped a tariff on the Chinese Government for oversize & fat tires
Not to bright ticking off the biggest purchaser of US debt. All they have to do is retaliate & not buy anymore & Obamas big spending stops dead in its tracks & the recession will look like a tea party if no one buys our debt anymore. We may than have to, dare I say it, live within our means or tax the living crap out of everyone. Wonder which road Obama would take
A puzzlement indeed.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#2
Posted: 9/12/09 at 12:06pm
So, you are saying Obama should let the Chinese dictate US economic policy?
This guy can't win. If he stands up to Chinese for violating trading practices, you "tsk tsk" him. If he doesn't, others will call him weak.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#2
Posted: 9/12/09 at 12:20pm
By the very fact they are the largest purchaser of US debt & if they stopped the country would be up a creek royally, yes they to a large degree dictate what we do
I remember Clinton gave the Chinese a pass on Human Rights violations. We talk about going green & yet 60 Minutes did a piece last week about how we ship computers there to be destroyed & how a vast section of land in that area is polluted & Chinese are dying because of unscrupulous businessmen there.
They are also a large consumer of US goods. They also import a ton to us so they do play a hugh part in US economic policy. To deny it would be naive.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#3
Posted: 9/12/09 at 12:31pm
"So, you are saying Obama should let the Chinese dictate US economic policy?"
The Chinese already dictate the US economic policy.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#4
Posted: 9/12/09 at 12:35pm
I am not saying denying the very large role China plays in our economy. I am just saying if Obama did what you suggested, others would be calling him weak.
Right now, China's biggest concern is keeping our economy stable and ending the worldwide recession - it is not in their best interest to force our economy to collapse, because of the impact on what manufacturing that is still going on, as well as the value of other investments. China cannot afford a trade war with the US for the very reason that they are so entwined with our economy. If and when US consumer demand resurfaces, China wants to be front and center, ready to supply it.
BTW - you can thank Reagan and Bush for this predicament.
EDIT: Goth, I would say China influences US economic policy, but it does not dictate it per se.
Updated On: 9/12/09 at 12:35 PM
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#5
Posted: 9/12/09 at 12:43pmIsn't Roxy starting to sound like all the people he used to mock for thinking Bush was responsible for everything bad that happened on his watch?
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/20/03
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#6
Posted: 9/12/09 at 1:50pm
We talk about going green & yet 60 Minutes did a piece last week about how we ship computers there to be destroyed & how a vast section of land in that area is polluted & Chinese are dying because of unscrupulous businessmen there.
You forgot to add one rather important word in that paragraph, Roxy.
ILLEGALLY
The 60 Minutes piece was about the ILLEGAL shipment of E-waste, to China and the US businessmen who are profiting from it. Which is against both US and Chinese law.
60 MINUTES STORY
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#7
Posted: 9/12/09 at 1:55pmBut JAG, that's what Republican's do. They read/watch something, get fired up, & fail to read/watch the rest because they are just too darn angry.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#8
Posted: 9/12/09 at 1:55pm
Due to illness, at the post the role of Mr Roxy will be played by FindingNamo.
There you go, blaming rich business men for everything. They aren't satan, you know.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#9
Posted: 9/12/09 at 3:36pm
The symbiotic relationship between China and the US economically speaking is extremely complex and multi-faceted.
A tarif on certain tires is going to have no effect on the dynamic between our trading policies.
Really, stop being such a simpleton.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#10
Posted: 9/12/09 at 4:00pm
Due to illness, the role of Mr Roxy is still be played by FindingNamo:
Taz, to each is own. I would never name-call like you just did to me. So much for free speech.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#11
Posted: 9/12/09 at 4:30pmWow, it's like they were separated at birth!
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#12
Posted: 9/12/09 at 5:24pm
Thing about a tariff on Chinese tires is...
{ALL groan.]
One hour later and you're flat broke again?
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#13
Posted: 9/12/09 at 11:55pmNo tarrify no tiree?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#14
Posted: 9/13/09 at 12:25am
You know all those rollovers SUVs have that so many almost automatically attribute to the drivers? Some of them were due to faulty imported Chinese tires. Most tires imported from China are for SUVs and light trucks. About four years ago one of the largest imported manufacturers unilaterally decided to stop including a standard safety feature in their tires. As a result their tires experienced premature tread separation, causing a number of rollover accidents. The US ordered the tires recalled but the Chinese company was uncooperative about providing information regarding its US sales. These tires were even used on ambulances and similar first response vehicles.
If they want to sell here they need to start playing by the same rules required of US manufacturers.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#15
Posted: 9/13/09 at 12:31am
It seems that China has very low regulatory standards.
Dry-wall, food, tires.....
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#17
Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:43am
At this post, Mr Roxy is still being played by FindingNamo.
China has 1.2 billion people and Detroit is sending Hummers over there while we are all driving hybrids. The jokes on us, boys and girls, and you can thank Obamacare.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#18
Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:47am
Buuuuuuuut Naaaaaaaammo, it's just not the same.
Roxy is our Debbie Downer, and there is no replacement.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#19
Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:52am
(We'll just see about that.)
I'm glad you're all having a good time with your name calling while I sit here with a prostate that looks almost as nuked as Chernobyl. Just so you know, I won't be reading your replies as I will be having dinner with Mrs R at Bubba Gump's so have fun in the sandbox kiddies.
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#20
Posted: 9/13/09 at 2:05am
a prostate that looks almost as nuked as Chernobyl.
Oh lord! Hahahaha!
Joined: 12/31/69
re: Obama Goes Off The Road#21
Posted: 9/13/09 at 6:13pmThe thing REALLY IS- whatever Obama does, the right wing will hate him.
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