#26
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:24pm
No, I believe that moment in NH was sincere and has been blown way the hell up. And Hill haters use it whenever to slam her.
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#27
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:27pm
One, she didn't cry. She got emotional.
Two, I've watched that damn clip numerous times. And call me gullible, but I believe it to be a genuine display of emotion.
I agree with JRB that that particular moment has been blown way out of proportion.
Two, I've watched that damn clip numerous times. And call me gullible, but I believe it to be a genuine display of emotion.
I agree with JRB that that particular moment has been blown way out of proportion.
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#28
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:27pm
sorry... i dont buy it, and the only reason she got away with it is because she's a woman... if obama pulled a stunt like that people would have eaten him alive...
gimick. i think i've made it very clear in previous posts that i like some things about her, i'm just not a huge fan overall, but that whole crying thing was a joke... and she's done it twice now... or excuse me "got emotional"... or "got misty eyed" or whatever you want to call it.
gimick. i think i've made it very clear in previous posts that i like some things about her, i'm just not a huge fan overall, but that whole crying thing was a joke... and she's done it twice now... or excuse me "got emotional"... or "got misty eyed" or whatever you want to call it.
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#29
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:30pm
Yes they would have cuban--Muskie anyone?
And yes, I agree the Hillary emotional "show" has been blown up out of proportion, just like Michelle Obama's remarks.
And yes, I agree the Hillary emotional "show" has been blown up out of proportion, just like Michelle Obama's remarks.
#30
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:30pm
I don't know if I buy the second one. But I still think the first one was genuine.
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#31
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:31pm
Fine. Just don't act like you are so kind and generous and above the bickering going on between Obama supporters and Hillary supporters.
That's all.
That's all.
#32
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:32pm
"just like Michelle Obama's remarks."
SERIOUSLY.
Some people just don't understand how different rhetorical devices work.
Not everything is COMPLETELY LITERAL.
SERIOUSLY.
Some people just don't understand how different rhetorical devices work.
Not everything is COMPLETELY LITERAL.
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#33
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:35pm
I don't see how you could take Michelle's comments any other way than literal. I'm not saying she should have been criticized for what she said.
#34
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:37pm
i just dont like being labeled an asshole just because we differ in opinions or because i get passionate about things sometimes... i dont think you're an asshole, and i know you're a nice person... a kind person... but i am too. and i TRY to say nice things about her sometimes... i have said many times that she would do a good job, i just prefer him instead...
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#35
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:38pm
Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.
You honestly believe she meant for that to be taken literally? that he will actually force people.
Okay, then. Well, I don't know what to tell you...
You honestly believe she meant for that to be taken literally? that he will actually force people.
Okay, then. Well, I don't know what to tell you...
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#36
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:40pm
Sorry, priest, I thought the reference was to her Pride for America comments that caused such a stir.
Did I call you an asshole, cuban? I simply said that you can't act like you are above all of this when you are just as guilty of sniping about Hillary as I have been about Obama.
And I have said nice things about him. Feel free to search my comments.
Did I call you an asshole, cuban? I simply said that you can't act like you are above all of this when you are just as guilty of sniping about Hillary as I have been about Obama.
And I have said nice things about him. Feel free to search my comments.
#37
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:43pm
i dont think i'm above anything... i snip as much as the next... snipper.
#38
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:45pm
The only time I take people literally is when I'm learning a recipe or in a leather scene.
#39
Posted: 2/21/08 at 2:47pm
often at the same time.
#42
Posted: 2/21/08 at 4:11pm
Here's another little tidbit in re Obama's policy on striking inside Pakistan without clearance.
CIA in Pakistan
CIA in Pakistan
#43
Posted: 2/21/08 at 6:17pm
From Washington Post Columnist Robert Samuelson's "The Obama Delusion"
" The senator seemd to have hypnotized much of the media & public with his eloquence & his life story. The result is a mass delusion that Obama is forthrightly engaging the nations major problems when, so far, he hasn't".
I wonder how many of his supporters actually know his positions on issues or will just vote for him beause he is the flavor of the month no matter what his positions are.
" The senator seemd to have hypnotized much of the media & public with his eloquence & his life story. The result is a mass delusion that Obama is forthrightly engaging the nations major problems when, so far, he hasn't".
I wonder how many of his supporters actually know his positions on issues or will just vote for him beause he is the flavor of the month no matter what his positions are.
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Updated On: 2/21/08 at 06:17 PM
#44
Posted: 2/21/08 at 6:28pm
Well, Mr Roxy, at least they vote, which is more than you can say.
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#45
Posted: 2/21/08 at 6:58pm
amen priest!
roxy, he's been my "flavor of the month" for about 4 years...
roxy, he's been my "flavor of the month" for about 4 years...
#46
Posted: 2/21/08 at 9:18pm
If commercials buy votes then Obama has bought Ohio. He is on almost every commercial break and has now taken over the radio. I normally wouldn't mind, but it's the same damn commercial/ radio ad every time. I am a Hillary supporter, but enough already. If these were Hillary ad's I'd be just as annoyed. She has about 3-4 a night, no radio yet. I will of course be a good Dem. and vote for whoever wins the nom. Just no more commercials, I know there will only be more... I can't wait till March 4th is over.
9/10 - Next To Normal, Ensemble Theatre
9/18 - Brian Stokes Mitchell, Cincy Pop's
9/28 - Death Of A Salesman, Wright State
9/18 - Brian Stokes Mitchell, Cincy Pop's
9/28 - Death Of A Salesman, Wright State
#47
Posted: 2/21/08 at 9:50pm
Boy From Ohio, if Hillary had as much money in her campaign as Obama did, she would run them at every commercial break as well.
I wonder how many of his supporters actually know his positions on issues or will just vote for him beause he is the flavor of the month no matter what his positions are.
Why? Because it's more convenient for you to assume that we're dumb kids who are distracted by big pretty words and shiny lights, instead of the fact that we might actually be informed and STILL prefer him over Clinton?
I wonder how many of his supporters actually know his positions on issues or will just vote for him beause he is the flavor of the month no matter what his positions are.
Why? Because it's more convenient for you to assume that we're dumb kids who are distracted by big pretty words and shiny lights, instead of the fact that we might actually be informed and STILL prefer him over Clinton?
Like a firework unexploded
Wanting life but never knowing how
Wanting life but never knowing how
Updated On: 2/21/08 at 09:50 PM
#48
Posted: 2/21/08 at 9:55pm
orangeskittles: Don't worry about Roxy. As I already said, he doesn't vote so even if ALL the people who vote for Obama were just voting him because he's a fad, they'd still have a leg up on Roxy.
"One no longer loves one's insight enough once one communicates it."
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
The opposite of creation isn't war, it's stagnation.
#49
Posted: 2/21/08 at 10:10pm
Unfortunately, Mr. Roxy isn't the only person with that opinion. They'd rather believe you're stupid than accept that your opposing opinion is just as legitimate as theirs.
Like a firework unexploded
Wanting life but never knowing how
Wanting life but never knowing how
#50
Posted: 2/21/08 at 10:55pm
that was an intense and exciting debate!!
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