One for the record book

[Elphaba]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 2:41pm

Last night, the Bloomington HS Bruin football team became the first 11-man team in the state of California to score 100 points in a game since 1929, by beating Jurupa Valley HS, 108-20
amazing......

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 2:44pm

That is running up the score. E - did you score many of the touchdowns?

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 2:47pm

That score is only OK in college if there is a BCS ranking to worry about.

In HS - bad form.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 2:53pm

Why is it bad form?

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 2:53pm

E - how are your Ducks this year?

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:14pm

Bad form because you are winning, and then running up the score. The kids on the losing team must feel like dirt.

In college, in some of the computer rankings, the score has bearing on how you are ranked (or at least it used to, I am not sure if that is still true). So, up to a point there is a reason to run up the score, especially if you are one of the top teams trying to play for the national championship.

Maybe there is bad blood between the teams or something, but usually sportmanship holds once the game is out of reach, you put in second, third or fourth string so as to not humilate the opponet.

Maybe they did that, and the other team was so bad, that it did not matter. I don't know. But this is HS, and usually you just don't try to humiliate people if you can avoid it. All it does is either make people really, really pissed - which can lead to its own problems, or destroys the self-confidence of the losing team in a way that can have long-term consequences.

But, just my opinion. Hope that makes sense.

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:16pm

I agree Y (we agree often)

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:17pm

Really? In my day, everyone played their hardest and their best. The best team won. Nowadays it's more about making everyone feel good - leading to an entire generation of people who feel they deserve the best jobs, houses, etc., just for being nice and "trying", not for working hard.



Holy crap, I just said, "in my day."

Updated On: 11/5/05 at 03:17 PM

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:38pm

Rath - there is a different between everyone doing their best - which means all of the players on the team, and not putting in second, third or fourth string players when you have clearly and convingly won a game. This has nothing to do with the whole problem we currently have with the entitlement generation.

Those second, third and fourth string players, if in, should play as hard as possible, and get experience. But, if the game is clearly and conviningly in hand, those players should be given a chance to play in a live game.

If this was tennis, I am all for 6-0, 6-0, 6-0.

But in a team sport, where not everyone always gets a chance to play in close games, coaches often appreciate the chance to give second, third, fourth string players a chance to play in game situations. For example, giving the back-up quarterback a chance to play live is wonderful experience in case the first string quaterback goes down.

All I am saying is if the first string was in for the entire game, then I think it is bad form all the way around.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:41pm

I'm with Rath on this. I think giving up the game because you're worried about the other team's self esteem is something that belongs in the PeeWee Leagues, not high school teams. Yes, they feel bad, but if they're going to compete with other teams at the high school level, they have to get used to disappointment. Every game has to have a loser and considering they're between 14-18 years old, they're old enough to accept that instead of being coddled by their parents, the other teams, etc. when they don't do well.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:45pm

OS -

Please read my last post -

If you still think I am encouraging people to give up, then I have not been clear in what I was trying to say.

EDIT - thanks brdlwyr - here is an example of what I was inartfully trying to say



Running Up The Score Updated On: 11/5/05 at 03:45 PM

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:50pm

Winning is not the only object of organized sports. There is a word called sportsmanship. I do not know if there is a non-gender specific term, but under those rules - running up the score is not right.

Now, If we steal 100 seats from the House next November, that is OK.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:58pm

Sorry, I went to post before that came up.

However, since no one here was actually at the game, we can't assume that they only played the best players for the sake of running up the score. Maybe the other team's defense just really sucks and even the waterboy was able to get through and score a touchdown. I just think we don't know enough about the game or the teams involved to be able to make assumptions like that.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 3:58pm

Pardon me, I'm from Canada. This football thhing you're talking about (no ice? no puck?) - what does it mean to "run up the score"?

Updated On: 11/5/05 at 03:58 PM

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:00pm

Tiff - basically, leaving your best players in to make touchdowns.

I am listening to a college game, the Huskers are getting their butt kicked not due to a lask of sportsmanship, but a terrible Husker defense. This is embarrassing.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:09pm

Tiff - check out the link I put up - it gives a definition.

OS - you are right. Maybe the team was so bad that was a score with second, third and fourth string in. If that was the case, just imagine the score. Yeesh.

[Rathnait62]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:10pm

I still say it's just playing the game. This was never an issue "back in the day."

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:26pm

Thanks YWIW and brdlwyr. So basically it offends when the winning team isn't content with just winning and running down the clock, but winning by an unncessarily huge margin for no other reason than to show off its star players and increase its chances at playoffs (assuming that football, like hockey, is decided by the overall number of accumulated points in the regular season)?

[Elphaba]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:34pm

brd we're 7-1, and right now leading Cal 10-7, in the 2nd Q......lost our quarterback 2 weeks ago for the season

Updated On: 11/5/05 at 04:34 PM

[Elphaba]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:38pm

I agree with Rath........doesn't matter, it's HS for christs sake.......for all I know they could be arch-rivals......trust me, I have no problem with running up the score......

[JohnPopa]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:41pm

Kids on 2nd, 3rd or 4th strings when they do get in the game try and take advantage of it and do something so they'll be noticed. They try to score, to make big plays and to get some attention. If a team's so bad they give up 100 points, regardless of the circumstances, the other team probably couldn't do much to stop themselves, other than stop going on the field.

[etoile]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:49pm

When a game is so clearly won what coach worth his salt doesn't take out his most valuable players so that they don't risk injury?

Updated On: 11/5/05 at 04:49 PM

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 4:55pm

That is pretty close. In some college and pro sports, the margin of victory has some bearing on rankings, so one could argue that the score is relevant.

If you are winning by a large margin in order to make a ranking or playoff, arguably that is not running up the score.

For example, in college football, if you are ranked number 5, and trying to get to 1 or 2, then you might have some justification for trying to get a high score.

I may have confused you more than helped.

BTW - love you avatar.

[Elphaba]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 5:00pm

then....there's Desert Hot Springs HS, a relatively new school (only 3 years with all 4 grades) who sucked and couldn't win a game for years.....and now, in a different league they've racked up 4 games over 60 points, and are having an amazing season.....

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 11/5/05 at 5:03pm

All I care about is that somehow my UC Davis Aggies found a way to beat Stanford this year.

After that victory - anything is possible.