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Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly

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PalJoey
#25re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/28/06 at 4:08pm

The CIA definition of "waterboarding":

"The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt."

The practice was perfected by the KGB in Stalin's gulags.


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bwaysinger
#26re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/28/06 at 4:10pm

Oh, I don't know, Lildogs. I mean, I obviously hate my country. I am actively hoping that, as a gay man, the islamic terrorists take over our country and the world and torture me and slice me into little pieces because I hate myself so much.
I mean, since they keep saying it over and over, it must be true, right? I mean, why would Bush and his administrators LIE? WHY WOULD THEY?

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PalJoey
#27re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/28/06 at 4:57pm

Jack Cafferty on CNN:

Cafferty: President Bush is trying to pardon himself. Here’s the deal: Under the War Crimes Act, violations of the Geneva Conventions are felonies, in some cases punishable by death. When the Supreme Court ruled that the Geneva Convention applied to al Qaeda and Taliban detainees, President Bush and his boys were suddenly in big trouble. They’ve been working these prisoners over pretty good. In an effort to avoid possible prosecution they’re trying to cram this bill through Congress before the end of the week before Congress adjourns. The reason there’s such a rush to do this? If the Democrats get control of the House in November this kind of legislation probably wouldn’t pass.
You wanna know the real disgrace about what these people are about to do or are in the process of doing? Senator Bill Frist and Congressman Dennis Hastert and their Republican stooges apparently don’t see anything wrong with this. I really do wonder sometimes what we’re becoming in this country.


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PalJoey
#28re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/29/06 at 8:38am

George Washington, on the treatment of British prisoners:

"Treat them with humanity, and let them have no reason to complain of our Copying the brutal example of the British Army in their Treatment of our unfortunate brethren."


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bwaysinger
#29re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/29/06 at 9:03am

Did I just see that this legislation passed the Senate with over 60 votes?
The shame of it all.

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bwaysinger
#30re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/29/06 at 9:08am

Yeah, 64 votes for. Here's some quick facts from CNN.

Agreement at a glance

Requires that a defendant being tried by military commission have access to any evidence given to a jury.

Drops a section of the administration's previous proposal that stated an existing ban on cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment satisfies the nation's obligations under the Geneva Conventions.

Prohibits "grave breaches" of the Geneva Conventions. Defines grave breaches as acts such as torture, rape, biological experiments and cruel and inhuman treatment.

Notes the president has the authority to interpret "the meaning and application" of the Geneva Conventions.

This is disturbing as it now gives Bush leeway to say "I interpreted it this way so I am above anything you can do to me on the matter."

Allows hearsay evidence.

!!!! What's next? Telling someone you heard so-and-so say such-and-such will land you in jail?

Allows coerced testimony if the statement was acquired before a 2005 ban on cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment and a judge finds it to be reliable.
Bans coerced statements taken after the 2005 ban went into effect if it violates constitutional definitions of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.

Bars individuals from protesting violations of Geneva Conventions standards in court.

What was that sound? It was the sound of us spitting on the Geneva Conventions.

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lildogs
#31re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/29/06 at 1:58pm

Okay, elected officials...when we have our soldiers coming home with tortured bodies and minds, let's not hear any outcry about how _____ doesn't follow the Geneva Convention.

We've opened the box, and there's no shoving those demons back inside.

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mejusthavingfun
#32re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/29/06 at 2:39pm

Is it really 2006? The future sure isn't what it used to be.

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jpwintergreen
#33re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/29/06 at 10:31pm

Thank goodness the bill passed.

FindingNamo
#34re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/30/06 at 12:41am

Try to think big picture/long-term oh chorus member (in more ways than one, right?!) jpwintergreen: someday there will be a democratic president and maybe one who enrages you as much or more than the mere mention of Bill Clinton's name does. Imagine what THAT'S gonna feel like to know he has such unitary powers.


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jpwintergreen
#35re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/30/06 at 10:30am

Ok. All Presidents need the powers to fight the war on Islamic fascists.

Who gave you the word "unitary" powers? Charlotte?


Updated On: 9/30/06 at 10:30 AM

FranklinShepard-Inc.
#36re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/30/06 at 10:32am

Charlotte?

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jpwintergreen
#37re: Osama Must Be Laughing Himself Silly
Posted: 9/30/06 at 10:45am

As in Charlotte and Wilbur. He knows.


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