RIP RIP Shawty it's your booty.
#2
Posted: 10/23/09 at 1:59pm
Why was it deleted? I thought Phyllis made some good points, as did Reginald. I was enjoying following the convo, even if I didn't have anything to add.
Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
Updated On: 10/23/09 at 01:59 PM
#3
Posted: 10/23/09 at 2:00pm
It wasn't deleted.
"Two drifters off to see the world. There's such a lot of world to see. . ."
#4
Posted: 10/23/09 at 2:03pm
Dead Thread Walking
#5
Posted: 10/23/09 at 3:18pm
It's marked for deletion. I thought it was a decent discussion, too, which is why I was prepping this thread.
#6
Posted: 10/23/09 at 4:41pm
If PalJoey has an issue with watching hot shirtless 17 (and maybe older, maybe younger) year olds dance around, then that's on him. I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm not aroused by them - therefore, it isn't "porn". (that's my own definition.)
I read the last page of the conversation, and I have to say that I don't find anything offensive by them using "faggot" in the video. I didn't even know that they said it until I read it here. I heard it when I watched the video a second time.
If you're offended by the word, then be offended by it in all cases. You can't pick and choose what offends you. If you can, then it's not that offensive.
I read the last page of the conversation, and I have to say that I don't find anything offensive by them using "faggot" in the video. I didn't even know that they said it until I read it here. I heard it when I watched the video a second time.
If you're offended by the word, then be offended by it in all cases. You can't pick and choose what offends you. If you can, then it's not that offensive.
"I want a lap dance from an octopus."
-JG2
-JG2
#8
Posted: 10/23/09 at 4:45pm
K.
"I want a lap dance from an octopus."
-JG2
-JG2
#10
Posted: 10/23/09 at 4:57pm
Heh. It never really caught fire once we changed venues.
#11
Posted: 10/23/09 at 4:59pm
Twas a wonderful conversation, PRS and Reg.
Bravissimo (as in Bravo to you both).
P
Bravissimo (as in Bravo to you both).
P
#12
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:01pm
"Heh. It never really caught fire once we changed venues."
We've heard that before!
We've heard that before!
"I want a lap dance from an octopus."
-JG2
-JG2
#13
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:26pm
I really wish you guys would stop it with the anti-gina menopause barefoot-and-pregnant comments.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#14
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:28pm
Biff, I think context is very important. But then I also refuse to see the world as black or white.
#15
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:44pm
Of course context is important, but how much of an issue is it if you can say, "I only like some things some of the time."
I hate raw onions, but I love them when they're sauted, and served on a Philly cheese sandwich with green peppers.
I hate raw onions, but I love them when they're sauted, and served on a Philly cheese sandwich with green peppers.
"I want a lap dance from an octopus."
-JG2
-JG2
#16
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:49pm
So clearly, I dislike the use of the word "faggot" when the motivation is as such in said video. However, it doesn't bother me in Shane Dawson's videos because the use is completely different in intention.
Just like your onions.
It's an issue (to me) when it's used to spread hate. It's not (to me) when it's used satirically to hold a mirror to society or to "reclaim the word".
It's the same back and forth argument as the one on the n word. I am merely expressing my views on the word. I am not demanding that anyone agree with me.
Just like your onions.
It's an issue (to me) when it's used to spread hate. It's not (to me) when it's used satirically to hold a mirror to society or to "reclaim the word".
It's the same back and forth argument as the one on the n word. I am merely expressing my views on the word. I am not demanding that anyone agree with me.
#17
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:49pm
If you don't like onions, don't like them in all cases. You can't pick and choose how you like or dislike them. If you can, then you don't not like them.
#18
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:53pm
~ but if the raw onions are sauteéd then they are no longer raw now are they? they ceased to be raw once they hit that frying pan.
#19
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:54pm
"It's the same back and forth argument as the one on the n word. I am merely expressing my views on the word. I am not demanding that anyone agree with me."
You just contradicted yourself. You use the "n word" with good intentions, but not in the stated post? What? Now I'm confused.
You just contradicted yourself. You use the "n word" with good intentions, but not in the stated post? What? Now I'm confused.
"I want a lap dance from an octopus."
-JG2
-JG2
#20
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:55pm
I have no idea what your point is.
#21
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:56pm
the word FAGGOT is an ugly, nasty, hateful word. it use should not be justified in any context.
#22
Posted: 10/23/09 at 5:58pm
And that is your opinion. For the record, I don't go around using the word. But it is in the video below (minus the 'got'). And I won't apologize for using it.
#23
Posted: 10/23/09 at 6:00pm
~ the word n* is another nasty, hateful word. it's use should not be justified in any context.
~ this "reclaim the word" business is utter BULLSH!T. the word is offensive.
~ this "reclaim the word" business is utter BULLSH!T. the word is offensive.
#24
Posted: 10/23/09 at 6:01pm
So, for example, Sondheim should not have had Booth utter it in "Assassins"?
#25
Posted: 10/23/09 at 6:02pm
Actually I take that back. If the words are being used in a historical context, for example to explain their unfortunate origins then that's okay. These type of words shouldn't be casually used for "fun". They are offensive.
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