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Religious Right up in Arms:Congressman to take oath on Koran

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#25muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/1/06 at 11:50pm

Extra butter here.

I actually really like Jerby's suggestion of the Constitution.


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Fiction Writer
#26muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 5:20am

At lease the Constitution is American.
The Bible is what again?
Oh yeah.. a book written in Hebrew is so American.

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Elphaba
#27muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 11:09am

"Actually, Dennis Prager, who is Jewish, wrote a very good article on this. If the Congressman were a Neo-Nazi, would we allow him to take the oath on "Mein Kampf"?"

and the above statement truly tells me (and others) about the quality of your character Goth..........and level of intelligence (or lack of) when one cannot not even tell the difference between the Koran and Mein Kampf

(and Fiction, Dear, it's at least, not at lease......)


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#28muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 12:31pm

Welcome back Scott!

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Carl Magnum
#29muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 12:49pm

Ok I gotta chime in on this one. To even bring Mein Kampf up in this discussion from either the original essay writer or in any posts following is asinine, as is the book of mormon argument.

First off, Mein Kampf is a work of literature and not religious scripture. An elected neo-nazi would take the oath on a bible because most Nazi's are Christians. So that argument holds no validity at all!

Second, Mormons believe in the new and old testament as well so there is no reason that they would turn their nose up at the bible. The book of mormon is just an additional book to the new testament that they choose to follow. However if they wanted to use a mormon ammended bible, they should be allowed.

The whole argument is retarded. Like any congressman or president takes that oath seriously. They might as well be swearing in on a copy of Garfield and a Case of the Mondays.


ps: I'm not a neo-nazi or mormon.


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#30muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 6:02pm

Just to add my two cents.
I really agree with the idea of using a copy of the Constitution. That makes much more sense. As a congressperson, there are two things you need to serve, your contituents and the Constitution. Religion shouldn't even be a factor.

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Elphaba
#31muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 7:37pm

thank you Deborah....good to be back


It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story... AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956

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MatthewAddison
#32muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 8:36pm

If the congressman were gay, would he swear on a Playbill?

NOOOOOO.

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MatthewAddison
#33muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 8:41pm

If the congresswoman was fat, would she swear on a cookbook?

Noooo.
Updated On: 12/2/06 at 08:41 PM

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TomMonster
#34muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 9:33pm

Matthew, I almost spit my soda all over the keyboard! You're on fire tonight, baby!


Oh, and is there any more popcorn left? My neo-Nazi, morman, bible eater friends are coming over for a movie later...

The SOUND OF MUSIC always seems to go over well with them.


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Updated On: 12/2/06 at 09:33 PM

Plum
#35muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 9:43pm

THANK YOU, PJ.

Cripes, people. No one swears on any book when they take an oath of office. He's just going to hold up the Qur'an in his photo op, because that's his holy book. Good for him.

The Bible does not "trump" the Constitution because they're two different things. We don't worship by the Constitution or set legal precedent according to the New Testament. So all you fundie Christian bigots can kiss my secular Jewish ass.

*writes this down as Reason #72 to one day take public office*

Updated On: 12/2/06 at 09:43 PM

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#36muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 10:25pm

note to self: move to a country without an extradition agreement with u.s. before plum takes any public office.


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MatthewAddison
#37muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 10:34pm

Don't get everyone's hopes up with promising to move to another country unless you're gonna do it!

Now that just ain't right.

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Elphaba
#38muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 10:34pm

it ain't fittin, it just ain't fittin!


It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story... AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956

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papalovesmambo
#39muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/2/06 at 10:37pm

oh, don't worry, matty. if she runs i'll execute plan 37-alpha-charlie before leaving and leave behind a string of bodies and crimes heretofore unimagined in american history. so be careful what you wish for.


r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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DG
#40muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/3/06 at 12:44am

I'd vote for Plum!

JbaraFan1
#41muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/3/06 at 12:59am

They should all swear on the King James Version of the Bible that Jesus read when he was a boy! - Barb

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paradox_error
#42muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/3/06 at 6:55am

muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around

Plum when she takes office:

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paradox_error
#43muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/3/06 at 6:56am

muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around

What the Republicans will want to do to her:

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paradox_error
#44muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/3/06 at 7:01am

In other news, I really detest the idea of anyone even thinking this is objectionable...

THERE IS A REASON FOR SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

Ugh.

Ignorance...

But bravo for Congressman Ellison for doing this. I'm not a fan of religion in general, but I'm sick of being held hostage by the religious right (yes, we have the same problem in Australia, only they have less numbers...although their power is undeniable)...

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PalJoey
#45muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/3/06 at 10:04am

Plum for President.


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#46muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/3/06 at 10:34am

For the 504938474558374 time . . . This country WAS NOT founded on Christian beliefs. The founding fathers were mostly Deists (meaning that they believed Jesus was a prophet, not the son of God). I hate when people say, "We need to stick with the virtues that this country was founded on." Learn some history before saying crap like that.


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aspen
#47muslims everywhere and only so many 10mm rounds to go around
Posted: 12/7/06 at 2:21pm

Who cares about this Qur'an business? I'm more worried about the fact that he's had his license suspended twice for dozens of unpaid parking/traffic tickets, supported Kathleen Soliah among other gang members (Sharif Willis), and had a liens put on his home for failing to pay taxes.

The fact that his campaign was largely funded by an Islamic group which hopes to convert the U.S. to a Muslim nation and replace the Constitution with the Qur'an is just fuel for the fire =)


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