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Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 12:16pm

I will throw myself into a vat of hot oil...

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re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 12:18pm

I'd love it - the kiss of death.

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 12:22pm

hmmm, just think, with olympia snowe as his running mate we'd have the gop suporting the ss ticket in '08.

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Updated On: 9/2/04 at 12:22 PM

re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 12:23pm

I still say Giuliani's got it in the bag. Has anyone not seen the "Hoover vacuum job" he's been doing on the collective azzes of the Bush clan all week long? I do think that Giuliani has his virtues, but he'll need a running mate that will make him more palatable to the Old South, Rust Belt, Heartland, and Pacific Coast.

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Updated On: 9/2/04 at 12:23 PM

re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 12:23pm

Maybe Keyes can be his running mate!
Keyes for VP?

PEACE.

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 12:27pm

javero, i don't think that with the way the gop has currently positioned itself as the party of the right that a pro-choice candidate could ascend to the top of the ticket. perhaps if the gop were to lose this fall even after having fallen prostrate at the alter of the evangelicals, then there would be a move to make the party more inclusive. however, barring some change (which i myself am expecting and upon which i am depending) there's no way rudy could make it to the top of the ticket. no way he'd make it through the partisan minefield of primary politics as they are currently set up.

re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 12:35pm

I think Keyes' gay bashing is a bit much for the GOP which is trying to put on its best centralist face right now. With Cheney's recent break in protocol on the topic & Auuurnold, Giuliani, and other GOP heavyweights coming out in favor of pro-choice, that hardline angst of Keyes is starting to put him on the outs with his peeps. Plus, he is a Marylander by way of IL which I say tongue in cheek of course. Giuliani needs a running mate from another geographic region, preferably one with a little twang in his/her voice or war hero status. I don't know how old McCain will be in '08 or if he has any real interest in being 2nd banana now, but a Giuliani/McCain ticket is unstoppable. (Edited after reading above post) Only McCain could help Giuliani step through the primary minefield. You are so on point.

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Updated On: 9/2/04 at 12:35 PM

re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 1:58pm

Giuliani in 2008...:
Pro choice;
Anti-discrimation for all;
Nasty temperment, huge visible ego;
Thrice married Catholic.

I'd stand back and watch him get eaten.

How could Santorum et al support him?

Oh, what a pretty immolation.

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re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 2:02pm

Senator Scrotum of Pennsylvania is a total nut-sack.

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re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 2:19pm

OK my final commentary on a possible Giuliani/X GOP ticket in '08. Politics makes strange bedfellows! Giuliani would be wise to snuggle up to Scharzenegger who is now bigger than his entire party. Several of the leading hawks went after Arnold publicly with charges that he was not a "true Republican" in the CA recall election. My prediction is that Arnold's endorsement will be instrumental in determining which candidate gets the party's nomination for the Pres slot in '08, even if its raises the ire of the fallen angel Bill Bennett, the neoconservative lapdogs billed as news analyst at FoxNews, and the vitrolic Libertarian Ann Coulter.

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Updated On: 9/2/04 at 02:19 PM

#11

re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 3:33pm

It ain't happening. Guiliani = New York. New York = Den of Evil. At least according to much of the Republican party. There's no way Giuliani can disassociate himself from the city, nor should he. Though I have to say he's better suited for the Presidency than for the Senate, where his giant controlling ego would make it hard for him to form alliances with his colleagues. There's only one President, after all.

#12

re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 3:43pm

Ann Coulter vitrolic?

On another web site she is called a raging drunk.

I realize that sounds unkind, but that's what I read. I think it was on Gossiplist.

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#13

re: Santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 3:50pm

Don't know why spellcheck didn't pick up the typo. I meant "vitriolic".

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#14

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 4:07pm

the only ny politician that has a shot at the gop ticket in '08 is pataki. bland boring george might, might, just be able to, but i doubt it. but like i said before, if they are successful this year, then '08 will bring about an ideologue the likes of which has never been seen in either party. unless, dick croaks and they put someone in who manages to be able to beat back the rising shrill cry of the bible thumpers. but that's doubtful. unless there's a serious move to the middle for the party itself following a victory in '04, it'll be a gary bauer/ralph reed chosen party of god maniac.

the only thing that would check that would be a serious slap down in the mid terms in '06 which might be enough to check the wild fanaticism.

Updated On: 9/2/04 at 04:07 PM

#15

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 4:19pm

Papa, I'm following your logic here but wonder if you'd offer up a suitable running mate for NY Governor Pataki, perhaps Senate Majority Leader Bill Frits of TN if he’s not deemed to valuable at keeping the Trent Lott(s) and other dinosaurs of the party in check? TN also has 2 Republican Senators currently and my take is that the GOP wouldn't risk Frits potentially losing his Senate seat if the Pataki/Frits ticket didn't pan out. This is all conjecture on my part but here in Washington, some people dedicate their adult lives to shaping the outcomes of elections. Note: Bill O’Reilly of Fox News recently tried to prod Pataki into spilling the beans on his candidacy for ’08 but mum’s the word. He did try the same thing with Giuliani whose candidacy many of you categorically reject.

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Updated On: 9/2/04 at 04:19 PM

#16

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 4:27pm

i would not want to see bill frist running for the freaking school board after that speech the other night. man, was he bad.

if pataki were to somehow get the nod he would need a seriously right wing running mate from the south or the southwest. my suggestion would be haley barbour. i'd love to think that they'd run a woman at least in the #2 spot against hillary, but i don't see it happening.

#17

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 4:32pm

I'll dissent in part in that I do believe that the GOP would indeed back a woman in the #2 position to neutralize the "Hillary ticket" in '08 if Kerry/Edwards falter. That tent gets a little larger around critical election time, e.g. Arnold in the CA recall election, Alan Keyes in IL Senate race, etc. That's why I used NC Senator Elizabeth Dole as a placeholder earlier eventhough I forgot that she'd be 100 yrs old then, lol!

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Updated On: 9/2/04 at 04:32 PM

#18

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 4:39pm

well, if it got to be a real big tent then they could do a lot worse than condi.

Updated On: 9/2/04 at 04:39 PM

#19

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 4:46pm

Something tells me that Condolesbian Rice would be a less than ideal political candidate.

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#20

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 4:54pm

why? is there something wrong with a gay and or lesbian politician, if in fact she is either? and for all the wild speculation over her sexuality, i've yet to see any documentary evidence to prove anything one way or the other.

#21

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 5:00pm

Does she have a record of military service? That seems to be the litmus test that every post-Vietnam era candidate has been subjected to. Clinton had a tough time passing it, Cheney admits that he didn't serve and tactfully side steps the issue in the context of presidential candidancy. I have nothing against a woman serving as President but I've ticked off more than one devout feminist colleague around her with my suggestion that neither Hillary nor Condi is qualified to act as Commander-In-Chief. Gosh, I'm sure to get flamed now.

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Updated On: 9/2/04 at 05:00 PM

#22

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 5:13pm

well, i wuld point out that fdr managed to win ww2 without a military background. condi's role as nsa and before that as a soviet bloc specialist in the reagan whitehouse does give her some street creds.

#23

re: santorum in 2008

Posted: 9/2/04 at 5:18pm

OK now find her a husband & she just might pass muster! I'm not implying anything here other the fact that GOP is too shrewd to put her out there like that. In fact, its been rumored inside the Beltway here that the reason she doesn't have a Cabinet-level position which requires Senate confirmations is that she would be made mince meat out of. Despite outward appearances, she is flappable.

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Updated On: 9/2/04 at 05:18 PM

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