"Serial" podcast

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 11/15/14 at 11:55am

Is anyone else listening?

I just started and am on episode 3.

[haterobics]

Posted: 11/15/14 at 12:51pm

Any good?

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 11/15/14 at 1:03pm

It's compelling, but I didn't know when I started listening that it was "real." In fact, through most of the first episode, I thought it was a very impressively constructed and recorded fiction series. When I started rethinking that assumption based on its verisimilitude, I thought, "No, NPR wouldn't fashion a serialized 'drama,' even in the trappings of investigative journalism, the gas tank of which is fueled by essentially exploiting the death of a young girl."

So, I'm still listening, but now I'm conflicted about it.

[tazber]

Posted: 11/15/14 at 2:31pm

I just read about this in the Wall Street Journal yesterday.

I'm very curious to check it out.

[HorseTears]

Posted: 11/15/14 at 6:02pm

I'm on episode 3 as well and will be listening to the rest of the available eps on a long drive tomorrow. I hate to admit it, but it kinda lives up to the hype. Addictive stuff. It's also become a massive phenomenon and was already the number 1 podcast in iTunes by its first week apparently. I know people use "NPR" as a metonym for all of public media, but it's, perhaps, worth noting that NPR has nothing to do with this. It's produced by WBEZ Chicago and Ira Glass/This American Life.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 11/15/14 at 6:41pm

Oh, thank you for the correction, HT. In my head, they -- along with American Public Media -- are the same thing, as they all air together on my local NPR station.

[HorseTears]

Posted: 11/17/14 at 2:29am

Sorry, Growly, didn't mean to be so finger-wagg'y. I worked in public media for several years, so the whole NPR = all of public media thing drives me balmy.

So, I'm thru ep 6 now and while I still think this podcast is great, I hope that future editions involve less scratchy archive tape and phone interviews. The poor audio quality makes this a less than ideal listening experience. Obviously, in this particular case, there's not much they can do about that.

[HorseTears]

Posted: 11/25/14 at 4:07pm

I'm caught up now to the most recent ep - ep 9. Although I think the host/producer sometimes makes her experience as a journalist (hello, privilege!) too central to the narrative, it remains absolutely compelling. I totally had a cliche driveway moment yesterday and stayed in my car to listen to the last 15 mins of ep 9.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 11/25/14 at 5:41pm

It's crazy how popular this has become, but it is compelling.

Their are good arguments (the sane ones anyway) on both sides of whether it's exploitative or not, so Growly you are not alone, and I had a similar feeling. That said, apparently in the future some installments MAY be purely fictional.

Can the host even be called a journalist? This is more like true crime ala Capote--no valid journalist would offer so much of her own opinion (or statements like how she wanted to believe someone due to his eyes, etc.) I mean that makes it more compelling, but...

[HorseTears]

Posted: 12/6/14 at 12:24am

[HorseTears]

Posted: 12/11/14 at 7:17am

So, the folks at Reddit have put together an extensive FAQ on the podcast, including the debunking of some theories. Damn, internet, damn.

There's even an AMA with one of Adnan's high school friends.




Reddit FAQ on Serial Updated On: 12/11/14 at 07:17 AM

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 12/11/14 at 11:16am

I've been addicted for the past couple weeks, and while I can't say that I found this episode terribly interesting or informative, it is strange to think that next week will be the final episode. I'm SO curious to see how all of this will come together.

I will say, despite my dissatisfaction with this episode, the final letter from Adnan was strangely moving.

[HorseTears]

Posted: 12/11/14 at 4:18pm

Agree with everything you said, wonderfulwiz. Didn't realize it was wrapping up next week.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/12/14 at 12:31am

For me it reached the peak with the appearance of the woman from The Innocence Project. In fact, I wanted her to take over the podcast with a brusque, "We'll take it from here." I can only assume the fact that it was never mentioned again while the narrative since has just been spinning the wheels means that is what we'll hear about in the finale.

If not, well, it's good they got all those donations when they did.

Updated On: 12/12/14 at 12:31 AM

[haterobics]

Posted: 12/12/14 at 1:37am

Best Buy got in trouble for tweeting about Serial today: http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/best-buy-sorry-tweet-joking-about-serial-murder-its-store-161906

[HorseTears]

Posted: 12/12/14 at 4:32am

Namo, I kind of agree. I loved the Innocence Project lawyer/teacher. Then again, she's so direct that the program would consist of two brief episodes.

I know this is not investigative journalism in the strictest sense. It's a combo of that and storytelling and narrative journalism. Getting to know our narrator is probably important, but the way she constantly inserts herself into the story feels kind of unnecessary. I find the actual case far more interesting than her experience investigating it, but of course we wouldn't be hearing a thing about this case if it weren't for her.

Updated On: 12/12/14 at 04:32 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/12/14 at 10:29am

Of course without her interjecting herself, each podcast would be 15 minutes. I didn't mind it, until the last couple episodes became 100% padding.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 12/12/14 at 11:14am

Perfection


Cereal Podcast

Updated On: 12/12/14 at 11:14 AM

[HorseTears]

Posted: 12/12/14 at 8:55pm

^ Very clever parody. Loved the opening. Couldn't sit through the whole episode, let alone move onto ep 2, though.

[HorseTears]

Posted: 12/16/14 at 12:37pm

Random off-the-wall-with-zero-evidence-to-support-it-theory: Adnan and Jay were gay/bi/bicurious lovers, Hae found out, Hae threatened to tell their friends.

[themysteriousgrowl]

Posted: 12/16/14 at 12:39pm

I'm behind two episodes. I've lost a bit of interest, but I'll push forward eventually. It's hard, though. It's so hard.

[HorseTears]

Posted: 12/16/14 at 10:37pm

Growl - your friends are judging you.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 12/18/14 at 4:29pm

Welp, that sinking feeling episodes 10 and 11 gave me must have lowered my expectations sufficiently that I am not surprised I guessed the ending we got. Which is that the serial ended.

[jasonf]

Posted: 12/18/14 at 6:28pm

Episodes 10 and 11 were rough - there was nothing really NEW or exciting added there. The last episode was all right, and pretty much what I expected in terms of an ending.

I still think Jay did it.

[HorseTears]

Posted: 12/18/14 at 8:31pm

Agreed, Namo, eps 10-11 definitely lowered my expectations as well. Frankly, I guess there was no other way the podcast could have ended at this point. That said, I do think this was a strong final episode. I hope they do a bonus update podcast next year when we learn more about the Innocence Project team's efforts. I mean, that DNA testing could be huge. But even if the DNA testing is granted and even if matches the now dead convict they talked about, why would Jay be involved and why would he pin it on Adnan?

Of course the producers did the responsible thing and avoided talking about all of their speculative theories, but it would be so interesting to be a fly on the wall as they recounted what must have been dozens of different theories. I wonder if one of them was that Jay and Adnan were secretly lovers and they both killed Hae to prevent her from outing them.