Swing States of 08
Swing States of 08
#1Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/5/08 at 3:11pm
Last night Pat Buchanan suggested that MO could swing Democratic an assertion with which I agree.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the following states will flip over to the blue side in the general election: MO, KS, AR and possibly GA, especially if the nominee picks a midwestern sitting governor as running mate.
Like Gore and Kerry before them, neither Hillary or Obama will pick up any electoral votes in the Old South, with GA being a possible exception. The swing states are in the midwest.
What say you?
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#2re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 12:58am
The Dems will carry all the states they did in 2000. As long as the votes get counted in Florida that means The Democrat wins by 20.
Incidentally, The Democrat will also carry MO, NH, AL and OH.
#2re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:01am
I say Sebeilus is too inexperienced in foreign policy to be a running mate for Obama.
She is also a very liberal governor. The two of them together might scare people to McCain.
#3re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:07am
You know what, I don't like to back off my positions but I've learned to be flexible ala the we'll-do-whatever-it-takes-to-win GOP.
If were not waging major military campaigns on 2 fronts in a post-911 era, an Obama-Sebelius ticket would be a win-win. Now that you guys (and gals) have twisted my arm, tomorrow I'll probably change my signature plate to read "Obama/Webb 08" but let me sleep on it first.
Of course, I'll support Hillary if push comes to shove but tonight's super referendum exposed her achilles heel in the context of the general election. It's no longer a mystery that support for her in the midwest is soft.
We gotta get those 270 electoral votes in Nov by hook or crook.
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Updated On: 2/6/08 at 01:07 AM
#4re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:08am
AL, Joe, as in Alabama? to the Democrats? I can't imagine that.
I agree that Georgia might be a swing state, it has several large Democratic centers (although it has been trending more and more Republican), but not Alabama.
The swing states I see are:
NH (in that it will stay "swung" to the Dems)
Florida, New Mexico, Ohio, Colorado, Michigan, Iowa, Missouri
then maybe Minnesota, Oregon, Nevada, and Virginia
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#5re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:15am
Javero, in a different international climate, she might be OK. But right now, with the fear/smear tactics the Republicans use, Obama would need to shore up those credentials.
Interesting that Huckabee is going to stay in the race, and the rumor is that Romney is dropping out.
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#6re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:23am
Romney dropping out? really? Interesting...where did you hear that?
I find it funny that the media keeps saying if Huckabee had dropped out, Romney would have done a lot better. Well, duh - if Romney had dropped out, Huckabee would have done a lot better (or at least would have won OK and MO). They are very close in total delegates now.
#7re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:30amI'd really like to see Virginia as a legit swing state this year. The demographics have been changing over the past several years, and I could see dependably red-state Virginia going blue this time around.
#8re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:33am
Here is the quote - it is not specific, but it implies that he may call it a day:
"White Flag?
Just had a report from MSNBC out of the Romney camp. They've got a senior aide telling them that "tomorrow will be a day of frank discussions" about the campaign at Romney HQ. Had all the signs of a packing it in signal. We'll have video momentarily."
White Flag
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#10re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:39am
I think Jim Webb and Mark Warner together signify a good trend.
Especially if Webb might end up the VP nom, it could be good.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#11re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 1:45am
Did Webb carry much of the southern and western portions of VA?
For all intents and purposes VA is practically two separate states as you are well aware. Northern VA is part of the Huckabee-coined 'Wall Street-Washington Axis of Power'.
Surprisingly, VA has nearly become nearly ground zero in the immigration reform battle playing out in portions of the country. McCain's amnesty-for-illegals stance would not go over well in VA at all which could give Hillary or Obama a free pass.
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Updated On: 2/6/08 at 01:45 AM
#12re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:00am
Did Webb carry much of the southern and western portions of VA?
No, he mainly carried the population centers while the rest of the state went for Allen. But it was a pretty close race throughout the state, with several counties to the west being about 50/50.
I don't think it would take much -- a southerner on the ballot as VP for the Democrats, even -- for Virginia to be in play. I was surprised that Bush did so well in 2004, but I think Kerry was perceived as too Northeastern, and Edwards, though I really like him, didn't do much for the ticket.
Updated On: 2/6/08 at 08:00 AM
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#13re: Swing States of 08
Posted: 2/6/08 at 8:19am
Penguin you are of course correct- Alabama will go Republican. It was late, I have no idea what state I thought I was abbreviating. Thank you for pointing it out nicely!
I think Huckabee is a maverick, impervious to party pressure, unlike Romney who is probably thinking he could sacrifice this campaign and then run against the victorious Dems in 2012 with full support of the party.
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