Thank you George W. Bush
Thank you George W. Bush
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#0Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:24am
It was the right war, at the right time, in the right place.
"Among the dead are pregnant women, even a young boy still clutching his ball, whose bodies were ploughed into their earthen tombs by bulldozers."
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041013/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_graves
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
Updated On: 10/13/04 at 11:24 AM
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#1re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:27am
"The bodies are believed to be those of hundreds of Kurds killed by Saddam's feared regime in a deadly campaign in 1987 and 1988, for which the toppled Iraqi leader is facing trial on charges of crimes against humanity"
Right Time? Funny, doesn't seem to me like this President was in office back in '87 or '88. And I love the fact this came out today of all days.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
Updated On: 10/13/04 at 11:27 AM
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#3re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:29am
GREAT article!
"a young boy still clutching his ball"
If Al Gore were President that boy would still be in that mass grave.
That's the real question... would we be better off if Al Gore had been President the past four years? I don't think so.
touchmeinthemorning
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/3/04
#4re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:29amalthough it does seem like he's been in office FOREVER.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#5re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:30amLet's not forget that Clinton had 8 years of doing nothing about the situation over there.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#7re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:32amBut let's not also forget the great things Clinton did for THIS country. Why is America now the lowest priority for any candidate? Don't tell me what Clinton did or didn't do in other countries when I clearly saw the benefits of his presidency RIGHT HERE.
"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#8re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:32am
Rodney - that 'young boy still clutching his ball' is something that leapt out at me. If indeed this was a mass grave that was all skeletons (left from bodies that had been bulldozed into a hole) how exactly was this young boy still clutching his ball? There is something vaguely manufactured about this article, it seems to me.
And interestingly, we hear nothing about mass graves in China - or many places in Africa, for that matter. I assume they stumbled across this mass grave while they were digging for oil.
touchmeinthemorning
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/3/04
#9re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:33am
not true. he did bomb those aspirin factories into oblivion.
of course, if gore were in office, we'd have osama by now, I'm sure. he's not buddies with him.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#10re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:41am
Calling Bush friends with Bin Ladden is slanderous. That's all I have to say about that.
DGRant, if a child is clutching his ball to his chest, then someone shoots him in the head, the muscle spams in the hand would clentch down on the ball, in theory. Then before riggamortis sets in, you shove him in a mass grave. Ball still against the chest within the hands. Pile dirt over him. He rots. Someone digs him up. ball still within the skeletal remains.
"I assume they stumbled across this mass grave while they were digging for oil."
That sounds like the ramblings of a person who is afraid their candidate might lose.
#11re: Thank you George H. W. Bush NOT George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:43am
That would have been the FIRST Gulf War then, right?
You're saying that Bush Senior should have pushed on into Baghdad then, right?
But here's what Bush Senior said in "A World Transformed" about invading Iraq:
"While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs.... We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome."
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#12re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:45am
Rodney - that explanation is possible, if not plausible (certainly not probable.)
And my assertion concerning oil is not rambling - there have been adequate questions raised to consider that the oil scenario is exactly what all this has been about - well, that and your president's hubris.
touchmeinthemorning
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/3/04
#13re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:47am
rodney,
slanderous, but true none-the-less. Why does the White House refuse to answer little ol Michael Moore's questions? Seems a little fishy to me. and, i can put 2 and 2 together. If you're content to believe everything the white house spews to you...feel free. My little brain won't let me do so.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#14re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:48am
So I guess we should REALLY blame this whole damned thing on the Big Three auto makers for refusing to make non-petroleum using vehicles. We should blame it all on all the God-Damned yuppies and their SUVs drinking all the gas.
kissmycookie
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/21/04
#15re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:50amClinton, however, did go into the Balkans. There was (and still is) turmoil in that region of the world. Clinton also went into Somalia, until Mogadishu happened, and we had to pull out. Not to mention, I believe Dubya said we shouldn't be into nation building. So the arguments against Clinton doing anything over in Iraq are rather moot, given all the whining his opponents were heaping on him...
touchmeinthemorning
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/3/04
#16re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:50amno. Their SUVs didn't invade Iraq. They would continue to pay for their gas at whatever cost they had to. Bush just wanted a little extra dough for his frat buddies...and maybe a little on the sly for himself.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
kissmycookie
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/21/04
#17re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:51ammore families drive SUV's than yuppies...
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#18re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:52amSpecious arguements will get you nowhere, Rodney. And I applaud your icon.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#19re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:53am
OK.. I think I've figured out the pattern here.
I see my shrink on Wednesday evenings.
If I fall into a political debate when it's been a week since my last 'fix' then I start getting nasty then people get pissed. So I'm gonna say "fock it" and just not participate. I mean nothing I could say will ever change your minds, just like nothign you say will ever change mine.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#20re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:57amRodney, go read Ann Coulter's book "How to talk to a liberal (if you must)". Everything she says about liberals changing the subject when they are confronted with the truth is so true.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
kissmycookie
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/21/04
#21re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 11:58amI don't think anyone is trying to change anyone else's mind here. There is room for debate and discussion.
kissmycookie
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/21/04
#23re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 12:00pm
Oh, yes. Ann Coulter is such the authority...
touche' joeyjoe...
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#24re: Thank you George W. Bush
Posted: 10/13/04 at 12:03pm
"Ann Coulter is such the authority"
She's making millions of dollars just by sitting around pissing off liberals. Obviously she's doing something right.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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