The Better Cleopatra

#1

The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:48am

Vivien Leigh or Elizabeth Taylor?

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" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."

#2

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:51am

Liz, but Viven is more beautiful.

#3

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 12:58am

when was viv cleopatra? wasn't viv ethal?

#4

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 1:05am

Viv was Cleopatra in 1945. Cesar and Cleopatra was an Alexander Korda production if I remember correctly.
Claude Raines was Cesar and Flora Robson was Ftatoteeta.
Cesar and Cleopatra was based on the George Bernard Shaw play. As I remember it when Vivien asked G B Shaw if he thought her a good enough actress to play Cleo, he replied that she shouldn't be silly. The role plays itself.

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" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."

#5

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 1:35am

I played Cleo in Shaw's play.
The role sort of DOES play itself, it was incredibly well written.

#6

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 1:36am

Gotta go with Liz on this one, Glebb.

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#7

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 1:38am

Oh, I love em both. :) But I must say I enjoy the extra DVD with the Liz version. The film had way too many mishaps before shooting started and that along with Liz getting ill put her in overtime before she filmed her first scene.

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" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."

#8

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 1:40am

Well, the film is historic for many reasons and the behind the scenes stories are priceless. Not to mention the impact it had on 20th Century Fox.

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"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#9

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:39am

Claudette Colbert.

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#10

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 6:21am

Theda Bara.

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"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"

#11

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 10:07am

Liz.

I saw the movie when I was about 11 - heavily into puberty. The scene where the servants bring a rolled up rug to Caesar, then unroll it and she is inside - one of the hottes things I've ever seen. Liz has never looked sexier.

That said, Vivien Leigh as Scarlett O'Hara was the most beautiful face ever on screen.

#12

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 10:19am

I've tried several times to post a pic of Viv as Cleo with no success, but if you Google Vivien Leigh Cleopatra you might find some gorgeous photos.

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" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."

#13

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 3:44pm

Oh, and there is a film clip of Joan Collins' screen test for Cleopatra on the 2nd disc of the two disc set.

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" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."

#14

re: The Better Cleopatra

Posted: 8/29/04 at 4:07pm

I go with Viv on this one.

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"Years from now, when you talk about this - And you will - Be kind. "