The Pope Blesses the Gays- Page 2
The Pope Blesses the Gays
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#25The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:06pm
She also says in the very same article that she is pretty sure is actually right, not to mention that she also states the Pope isn't calling for a change in doctrine, but maybe she and the Pope are poised to be the best cheerleaders for gays since Laura Bush!
Updated On: 10/11/13 at 12:06 PM
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#26The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:12pmI"ll buy it when the Pope officiates at a gay wedding.
Roscoe
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#28The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:17pmWhen the Pope announces that henceforth the Catholic Church will look upon the Bible's condemnation of homosexuality the way it looks upon the Bible's condemnation of eating shrimp, I'll believe it.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#29The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:30pmI think this is an enormous ruse by the Pope to have more gays sent to hell, because every time they misrepresent what he says they are breaking the Ninth Commandment.
#30The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:51pmBut aren't we all already going to hell?
#31The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:53pm
I don't know anything about Catholic doctrine, so I won't pretend to. But if you're going to hell for being gay, you might be going to hell for a whole bunch of other things too, right? So you might as well be gay.
But I do think that when the person at the top spews hate, it allows for people down the chain of command to be 100 time more hateful, because they can claim that they're only doing what is right. But when the person at the top stops the hate that's coming from the top, the people down the line have a tougher time being hateful. They can no longer justify their hatred, or they have a tougher time justifying it, at any rate.
Sometimes the "baby steps" we all resent can make change happen remarkably quickly.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#32The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:57pm
Catholicism is always changing. good things get better, bad get worse.
Wait I think I mean that in reverse?
All I know is you used to be automatically hell-bound for eating meat on Friday. Now, not so much.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#33The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:57pm
We never discuss where thinking the thoughts that make you realize you are gay in the first place fits in. Jesus and the priests I was taught by said lust is the same as adultery, so unless you are gay and chaste of body and mind, how can you get to Heaven? This is all very confusing.
Updated On: 10/11/13 at 12:57 PM
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#34The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 12:58pmEverybody gets to heaven because jesus died on the cross. Duh.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#35The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:02pm
I wish I'd been raised in the Catholic Church you went to.
Updated On: 10/11/13 at 01:02 PM
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#36The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:05pm
No, actually. Catholics have a lot of rules and laws that can keep you out. Jesus died and basically cut the ribbon on heaven. I am not sure where people who died before Jesus went- probably purgatory- but they had to wait until Jesus opened Heaven for visitors.
As my nuns used to tell me, a lot of people go to hell. A LOT.
#37The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:13pmI don't believe in magic. So I don't care where they think I'm going when I die. I just want them to stay out of my way while I'm alive. Just stop actively working to oppress me. And stop trying to trick good people into supporting you by tricking them into thinking you're more tolerant than you really are.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#38The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:17pm
It's amazing how this stuff comes flooding back when you think about it. Things I were taught:
If you die and have one un-confessed mortal sin, HELL! if you confessed a sin (even a little one) but did not do your penance, HELL! If you have small un-confessed sins or have ever committed a mortal sin (even if you have confessed & repented) you go to purgatory (maybe for years) to heal the marks on your soul before going to heaven. Purgatory is not torture like hell is, but you are in absolute agony because you are dead and not in heaven yet. Heaven is eternal bliss.
If you die as a baby and were not baptized you go to limbo. Forever. Limbo is not hell, but it is agony like purgatory but you don't mind as much because you are a baby. If you are baptized and die before age 7 you go to heaven. When you are 7 you start going to confession and from then on you are held liable for any sins.
oh a few years back the pope decided Limbo didn't exist and from then on unbaptized babies could go to heaven. Babies who had gone to limbo had to stay there because there is no exit from Limbo ever for anyone. Sorry babies.
How long are you in hell? Eternity: Imagine a steel ball the size of the sun. Every century a bird flies by and brushes that steel ball with his wing. When that wears that ball away to nothing, eternity is JUST BEGINNING.
Updated On: 10/11/13 at 01:17 PM
#39The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:28pm
It's like everyone just makes up rules as the go along.
Whatever is convenient I suppose.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#40The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:37pmTo be fair, Joe, Limbo was eradicated a while back. I don't know what happened to the Limbo Babies, though.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#41The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:40pm
They're caught in the original Star Trek universe timeline.
#42The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:44pmJoe--there is a speech in Christopher Durang's Sister Mary Ignatius that lays all that out brilliantly.
#43The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 1:49pmI want to start a rock band called Limbo Babies.
TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#45The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 2:29pm
Isn't this the same pope who just defrocked a priest last month for being gay?
TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#46The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 2:32pm
Why, yes! Yes he is!
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/508066/20130923/greg-reynolds-pope-francis-vatican-excommunication-laicise.htm#.UlhEBDK9KK0.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#47The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 2:39pm
Limbo closed in 2006. I think maybe all the people who died before Jesus went to Heaven were there too?
Sister Humbert was very clear- once you went to limbo you never got out no matter what.
#48The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 2:59pmAnd let's be honest, she would know.
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#49The Pope Blesses the Gays
Posted: 10/11/13 at 3:21pm
You must have known Sister Humbert! Once, during a spirited discussion on if animals go to heaven (No, of course not), Sister Humbert said SHE KNEW because "she'd been there."
I tell ya, it was like arguing with Suestorm.
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