The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#0The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 5:37pm
From Maureen Dowd's column of tomorrow:
There was a bit of a panic among publishers this week. St. Martin's Press hurriedly put a warning sticker on Augusten Burroughs's latest memoir, "Possible Side Effects," due out this spring: "Author's note: Some of the events described happened as related, others were expanded and changed. Some of the individuals portrayed are composites of more than one person and many names and identifying characteristics have been changed as well."
There are no successful contemporary writers I hate more than him. Good riddance to bad trash.
#1re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 5:40pmYou called this one a while ago too, didn't you?
"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater
"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
#2re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 5:41pmAdditionally, we are bound to see a lot of this paranoia from publishers thanks to Frey. But, that might be a very good thing, eh?
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#3re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 5:41pmYes indeed I did, thank you ever so much for remembering.
#4re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 5:54pmYou're welcome. What is it that tipped you off about Burroughs? I haven't read any of his books but I read the flap of "Magical Thinking" and thought that even if it WAS true, it would have the depth of Paris Hilton's "Confessions of an Heiress".
"Good luck returning my ass!" - Wilhemina Slater
"This is my breakfast, lunch and f***ing dinner right here. I'm not even f***in' joking." - Colin Farrell
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#5re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 5:57pmEverything about him is phoney from his stupid fake name on down. I read two chapters of that first stupid book and I told anybody who'd listen "This is all made up."
#6re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:06pmBut if that's the case, why did members of the family bring a case against Burroughs for not disguising the doctor's identity well enough? Everyone who knew of the man Burroughs is talking about worked out who he was from the book.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#7re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:22pmBecause Chris, I'm sorry, "Augusten," was stupid enough to make up wild fantasies and placed "characters" loosely based on real life people in the middle of them.
#8re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:27pmHow loose does it have to be before it's obscured completely though? And if he's making it all up how has he not been sunk before this? And why isn't everyone he talks about in the book suing up the ying yang for libel?
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#9re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:32pm
Well, we might be surprised. What I am saying is, real people exist, and if you're going make up wild fantasies about abuse, you should be sure not to place real people who can recognize themselves into those fantasies.
And of course, we ARE now starting to hear about this. As the new sticker for the new "memoir" indicates.
#10re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:35pmLibel is a lot harder to prove in the US than it is in England.
FindingNamo
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#11re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:37pmAnd it's foggier there, too.
#12re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:38pmBut what I'm trying to get at is the only fallout that has occurred is from identities not being sufficiently disguised, rather than entirely fake situations being created around real people. If that were the case, don't you think the axe would have fallen on him a whole lot sooner?
FindingNamo
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#13re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:42pm
You know, very often people don't want to call more attention to themselves than the author who uses them as characters already has. Sammy Davis, Jr., god love him, never bothered to sue Linda Lovelace for saying he asked her to teach him how to do her special talent on another man.
So, there's all sorts of reasons that people "let it go."
That doesn't mean there haven't been murmurings about Burroughs's flights of fancy before, just as there have been about JT Leroy for five years. It's just that we've reached a tipping point in the past few weeks and now publishers are cranking out stickers for books they wouldn't have thought twice about putting out as "memoirs" now that the market for fiction has collapsed.
#14re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:43pmI liked "running with scissors" and "dry" if they were fake or not. It was really dark and funny. It only took me a couple of days to read both. They were that entertaining.
FindingNamo
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#15re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:44pmSigh.
#16re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:47pmI knew that would get a response from you, Namo. For the record, I loved Running With Scissors and I loved Dry too. But show me absolute proof he made the whole thing up and I'll happily call him a c**t.
#17re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 6:54pm
These "memoirs" can be fabricated and still be compellingly written. However, that makes them "fiction."
Maureen Dowd's column today mentions Federick Exley's incredible book "A Fan's Notes," which Exley billed as "A Fictional Memoir."
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#18re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 7:00pm
I don't think the sticking point is that a person has to have made up all of it for it to be fraudulent, popcult. What matters is that any substantial stuff is phoney.
I loved Maureen's suggestion for a new categoricization: non-non-fiction.
#19re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 7:12pmOk, I overstated my point. If he's shown up to be as much of a fakey fakepants as Miss Frey has been, then my righteous indignation will kick in.
#20re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 7:13pm
Smoke on the water
A fire in the sky
And that's all I'm sayin.
#21re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 7:31pm
There are notices like that in ALL of his books. ALL OF THEM!
At least he can do an interview and look people in the face. My goodness. James Frey comes off SO sheepish when he's on TV. Take a public speaking class.
Also, DRY is a much better (and truer) read that A MILLION LITTLE PIECES.
EDIT: I wanted to add that Burroughs books are very VERY different. Frey's book took a stab at a huge establishment, 12 step programs. He had a political message. Burroughs are purely stories of his life with no "messages" attached.
Updated On: 1/28/06 at 07:31 PM
#22re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 8:08pm
To clarify, the notices in Burroughs' earlier books are not as strongly worded. For example, the note in Running with Scissors reads, "The names and other identifying characteristics of the persons included in this memoir have been changed."
However, it is my understanding that the notice for the new book was planned long before the Frey flap.
#23re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 8:12pmTrue. Thanks Billy. :)
#24re: The next sinking ship: The SS Augusten Burroughs
Posted: 1/28/06 at 8:16pmIn all seriousness, then, how does someone go about writing such pieces of literature? Can you recount the events of your life, slap them in a book marked "fiction," and just hope that nobody in the book reads it and says, "Hey, I think this fellow 'Bob' in your book is a lot like this 'Sam' guy you used to know..." Or do you label it a memoir, and say at the beginning that "the folks depicted in this book are sort of based on real people with different names, but all the really interesting stuff is probably made-up." How does an author who wants to write this kind of thing protect themselves?
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