Definitive proof from Britains Channel 4 that the Pakistani government is lying.
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Video: 'The most conclusive evidence' Bhutto was shot
Wow...it's like the Kennedy assasination all over again....conspiracy theories, ultra slo mo frame by frame video, etc. Not meant to be funny or disrespectful.
yeah, that clears it right up. definitive, my left butt cheek.
It's the local police, not the widower, blocking the autopsy.
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Athar Minallah, a board member of the hospital where Ms. Bhutto was treated, released her medical report along with an open letter showing that her doctors wanted to distance themselves from the government theory that Ms. Bhutto had died by hitting her head on a lever of her car’s sunroof during the attack.
In his letter, Mr. Minallah, who is also a prominent lawyer, said the doctors believed that an autopsy was needed to provide the answers to how she actually died. Their request for one last Thursday was denied by the local police chief.
Pakistani and Western security experts said the government’s insistence that Ms. Bhutto, a former prime minister, was not killed by a bullet was intended to deflect attention from the lack of government security around her. On Sunday, Pakistani newspapers covered their front pages with photographs showing a man apparently pointing a gun at her from just yards away.
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It is soooooooooooooooo funny that you think you know what happened.
You must have been reading the New York Times.
did you see any bullets hit in that video?
I don't have to watch the video, I can just blindly accept Joe's word for it. After all, he is a liberal expert.
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isn't that cute? it thought i was speaking to it instead of just re-titling the thread about it. so very ego-driven. and, as usual, wrong.
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obviously she slipped on a banana peel.
Ahhh...the plot, as Miss Marple would say, thickens:
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The police chief of the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi prevented doctors from performing an autopsy on the corpse of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto, according to a lawyer on the hospital's board.
The dramatic new revelation emerged as new videotape showed a gunman in close proximity to Bhutto in the moments before her assassination, and a surgeon said he'd felt pressure to conform to the government's official story on Bhutto's killing.
Pakistan's interior minister had previously said that Bhutto's husband, Asif Ali Zardari, had requested the autopsy not be performed.
"Even if the family of a murder victim refuses to allow the autopsy, no investigation can be completed if doctors do not perform the autopsy and conclusively find the cause of death," Athar Minallah, a top lawyer and a member of Rawalpindi General Hospital where Bhutto was taken after the attack said in an article by Times of India. "The doctors were worried that their initial report, which did not determine the definite cause of death, is being politically twisted."
The decision was taken despite the fact a post-mortem examination is required under Pakistani law in the cases of murder....
Pakistan's interior ministry says they are open to exhuming the body; Bhutto's husband opposes the move, saying he doesn't trust the government.
Papa, there are some signs of a concussion similar to a bullet hitting her head - In time, I am sure someone will try to further clear up the frames, but at least it my mind there is a good reason to question the "official" explanation.
A logical explanation is that she was shot, and the government is trying to cover up the fact that they either failed to provide adequate security, or that some in the security services were in on the plot (which also seems plausible if you see the lack of effort by the supposed security detail provided by the government to do anything).
It could be she was ducking quickly, and in the act of ducking, the explosion occurred, but the film does not seem to support that theory. I am not satisfied with the information provided by the Pakistani government.
I would not trust the Pakistani government to perform an autopsy right now either - only an independent third party.
Once again, Joe and Papa endorse terrorism.
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thanks YWIW--you are always the voice of reason
If that is really the case, we are all in trouble.
Well, if it wasn't a bullet, what blew her hair and shawl up the moment she fell forward, a second or so before the bomb exploded?
Maybe someone plugged a hairdryer into the cigarette lighter and suddenly switched it on "high."
Jersey - that video is pretty convincing - but I am no expert.
It is not clear to me whether ducking once she heard the shot could have brought on the same effect. I doubt it, but I am not a forensics expert.
I tend to believe she was shot, but it is not beyond comprehension that something did happen when the bomb exploded. Perhaps it was both.
Right now, no one knows for sure, and that is the problem.
It's sad that it even matters. Even if she wasn't killed by bullet or shrapnel, she wouldn't have died from whatever cause if there hadn't been an attack.
The issue now is whether she will be considered a martyr in Near Eastern Muslim tradition. If the government can reverse the feeling among Pakistanis that she died a martyr's death by convincing the Pakistani people that she exposed herself to danger then ducked like a coward, they will effectively destroy the opposition.
Yes. And it's disgusting how they think she's less a martyr if she "merely" hit her head.
Disgusting.
But, hey--we've been putting up with this kind of BS spin for some time now, eh?
It seems to me that by playing fast and loose with the facts that the government is only helping create the perception that she is a Martyr.
The fact that she asked for private security help from US and UK firms, and was rebuffed by Musharraf, and the evidence of the woeful security provided by his government, leads me to believe that even if Musharraf was not directly involved in the act, he enabled it to happen by the lax security.
And, I do not honestly understand how ducking when hearing gun shots or a bomb would make her a coward. If anything, she put herself unnecessarily at risk by coming out of the sunroof. If anything, she was brave beyond reason.
Don't any of you idiots understand that while she was shot, something else could be the medical "cause of death"?
WOW. You really blame america first for everything.
Happy New Year, BWW.
There will be one minute of peace, love, and understanding from the liberal elite tonight at midnight.
what the **** does any of this have to do with blaming america first you little terrorist troll? Seriously, what are you, Al Qaida in America's secretary of gay internet message board propaganda and general annoyance?? Seriously get a ****ing life you useless twat. Why do you hate america SO MUCH?
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