When Will Ohio certify its vote?
When Will Ohio certify its vote?
#1re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/14/04 at 1:11pmWell, that's the thing--nothing is for sure. They are either beginning the count of the provisional ballots this weekend or this week. December holds all the deadlines.
#2re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/14/04 at 1:19pm
yea- im still holding out for another Gore problem- but screwing Bush over this time 
#3re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/14/04 at 1:20pmbtw- i love those pics. they out a smile on my face.
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#5re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/14/04 at 5:42pmYou don't seriously think it will change anything though, do you?
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#7re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/14/04 at 5:47pmDidn't Kerry conceed? I'm not sure how all of the legistics, but if he conceeded does it matter the votes anymore?
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#9re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/14/04 at 6:20pmTGIF, legally, concession speeches have nothing to do with anything. I'm pretty sure Ohio has to certify its vote in order to tell its Electoral College representatives who to vote for. Or something. Gah, this whole process is so confusing.
#10re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/14/04 at 6:47pmMatt G: I know it's a long shot, but it is indeed possible that Kerry could still upset. And, if he wanted to be President, he could be at that point.
#13re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/17/04 at 12:19am
From MSNBC:
The AP reports that by yesterday, 11 of Ohio’s 88 counties had completed vetting the provisionals and that ten of the districts have accepted the validity of more than 90 percent of them. One - Belmont County (along the West Virginia border) - has tossed 42%, and nearing the halfway mark in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland), the election board there has accepted about two-thirds.
#14re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/17/04 at 12:22am
The Concession Call is all for tradition and show and ceremony.
It doesn't affect the outcome of anything.
If a candidate conceded to the other, but got 270+ electoral votes, he is still the President-elect.
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#15re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/17/04 at 12:36pm
"certify"?
I would use the word "verify".
Yes, I know that there is the potential for things to turn around, but it's really a longshot. If Ohio changes it's statement, I will be amazed.
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#16re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/17/04 at 12:53pm
"Certify" is the "official" word. Once the vote is certified, the state can destroy the paper vote and erase the machines. That is why any request for a recount has to be filed BEFORE the vote is "certified".
I believe the intent is not to overturn the election but to reveal or confirm excessive problems in the electoral system so that they will not be ignored but will have to dealt with before the next elections. Of course if outright fraud is proven, then there is a whole 'nuther can of worms, both with this election and upcoming ones. Not to mention Senate, Congressional, State, and Local elections.
#17re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 11/17/04 at 3:35pmIf they are looking for fraud just ask the people who invented the touch screen voting machines. They said it is the easiest thing in the world to fix and the codes are all online.
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#19re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 12/4/04 at 4:28pmIO saw that this morning but it doesn't matter. Kerry conceded, so Bush is our next president no matter what.
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#20re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 12/4/04 at 4:28pmI'm glad to hear Kerry is wanting this, also.
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#21re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 12/5/04 at 3:20am
jacob--HOW MANY TIMES MUST I SAY THIS?
That speech is not legally binding. It doesn't mean SH!T. If Kerry wins--he is the next President!
Let the games begin!! It's time THIS country demand a fair election and its results. SO GLAD that the Kerry camp is stepping in. Let's pray for a very Merry Christmas and an even happier New Year!
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#22re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 12/5/04 at 3:28amUnfortuneatly, the voting machines will give the same results the second time around. With no paper trail, how can you have a recount? What's there to re-count?
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Updated On: 12/5/04 at 03:28 AM
#23re: When Will Ohio certify its vote?
Posted: 12/5/04 at 3:37am
That is exactly why this election should be thrown out. We should practice what we preach and hold a new election. However, we should set a new example for the Ukraine and actually fix the election problems before doing so.
When 40 million votes were placed on Bush-supported-Diebold machines, I think there is plenty of room to question the validity of those votes.
Let's just hope that at the least, a recount produces a tally of all votes in the state. There is a chance that Kerry will prove to be the winner.
In other news:
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