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Why is there an X in Christmas? (X-mas)

A seasonal and interesting etymology question: was the X a "commercializing" thing to make Christmas more edible for non-Christians? Is the X really a cross?

Neither, in fact; it appears that the X is really the first letter of the word Xtos (ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣWhy is there an X in Christmas? (X-mas), which in Greek is the word for Christ.

Xmas

SYLLABICATION: X·mas
PRONUNCIATION: krsms, ksms
NOUN: Christmas.
ETYMOLOGY: From X, the Greek letter chi, first letter of Greek Khrstos, Christ. See Christ.
USAGE NOTE: Xmas has been used for hundreds of years in religious writing, where the X represents a Greek chi, the first letter of “Christ.” In this use it is parallel to other forms like Xtian, “Christian.” But people unaware of the Greek origin of this X often mistakenly interpret Xmas as an informal shortening pronounced (ksms). Many therefore frown upon the term Xmas because it seems to them a commercial convenience that omits Christ from Christmas.
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#2

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Well duh - how else could we use it to shorten Christina?

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#3

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I knew that ;o)
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#5

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I always thought it was a lazy way of spelling Christmas... I found this out last year.
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#6

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It IS a lazy way of spelling Christmas!
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#7

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We used to have a poster contest in grammar school every year and it was called...."Keep Christ in Christmas"...until this day I can't use the "X".
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment. Ralph Waldo Emerson
#8

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now that's funny Boobs, since it was a pagan holiday the christians stole........
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story... AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
#9

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.... and well not to mention, that it would be to cold in Bethlehem in December for the shepards to be out at night with the flock. Christ most likely born in March, (when the flocks would be grazing outside at night) if we are to believe the Bible passage.
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No, phoenix, there is a disagreement amongst theologians about the birth season of Christ. It was either late March or mid-September. Above it all, we know the date is definately NOT December 25.

Still, setting aside a day to think about the birth of this amazing human (maybe God) is a pretty important thing to do -- even if we're inaccurate witht the specifics of the date.
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#13

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But thanks to the Gregorian Calendar on which the entire Western civilization has adopted for days and months used to chart saints' feast days, it has chosen December 25th as the day of the birth. But notice that Easter is still determined by the Eastern calendar which follows a lunar cycle...
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Also with the "wise men" from the East followin a "star" and the orders to kill all male children under 3, puts the Christ childs birth some where in the early spring or fall.
The Church placed the celebration of his birth in December to symbolize the light of the wirld being born at the darkest time of the year. (I think it was to PO the pagans celebration of the Solstice, or maybe to steal some thunder from Hannukah?)
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#16

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Oh, definitely to steal the Winter Soltice. After that day, we start getting more sunlight every day...
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Hm... RobbO led me to ponder... X-mas = Christmas, X-men = Christmen? Could that be deliberate? And if it's a well known fact, sorry, I don't truly follow comics.
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#18

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The "X" actually has Christian roots. The early Christians were persecuted (as you all know) and used the "X" in the place of "Jesus" or "Christ" quite frequently. In fact crosses in the forms of "X"'s were quite common (see the story of St. Andrew). It's really not unChristian to use the term "Xmas".
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ahh! so i wasn't completely imagining things! jolly good then; march and september are both fine months for a christ-birthday! re: Why is there an X in Christmas? (X-mas)

and yeah, placing christmas near the winter solstice was TOTALLY a ploy to steal pagan holiday thunder. where do you think the whole "yuletide greetings" thing came from?! "yule" is the pagan sabbat of the winter solstice, celebrating the celestial movement of the blah blah blah and the Mother Goddess giving birth to a new Earth...hey that rhymed.

and daydreamer: that is interesting! i had never thought of it that way! i mean, not that i would be particularly zealous (heh) about x-men being...christian superheroes? *shrug* personally, i've always regarded them as non-denominational. but then again, what do i know about x-men...
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From what we know, St. Peter was crucified an the traditional cross, only upside down.
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#22

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Someone told me ( I do not remember who) putting Xmas instead of Christmas is taking Christ out of Christmas. He has been out of Christmas for quite sometime now
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#23

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phoenix... maybe more like messiahs.
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i always thought the X was there to replace "chris" like, criss-cross? you know how people abbreviate lacrosse with LaX? i thought it was like that. why i ever thought that, i do not know.

i guess not!

interesting facts though.
#25

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No Christian overtones in the X-Men, at least not that Stan Lee has ever mentioned. He's said the 'X' doesn't mean that much other than the characters had the 'x-factor' that gave them their powers.

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