#26
Posted: 3/12/15 at 12:21pm
I keep seeing articles saying things like "This sets a bad precedent" and other more histrionic language, and yet I fail to see why.
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#27
Posted: 3/12/15 at 1:34pm
It's a knee-jerk reaction out of fear, nothing else. This case has gotten more attention because of Thicke and the popularity of the song, but this case doesn't set any sort of specific precedent. Sounds like a bunch of whining.
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#28
Posted: 3/12/15 at 1:56pm
This is a very complicated case and can not be judged merely by listening to the song. Music experts analyzed the song for the jury and it met the standards of copyright infringement. Thicke's changing testimony didn't help either.
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Updated On: 3/12/15 at 01:56 PM
#30
Posted: 3/12/15 at 2:29pm
They probably felt under attack by the other side and the article above mentions that Pharrell and Robin Thicke's attorneys were aggressive. Plus, it must not have been nice to hear them backtrack and not give credit to their father, which could be read as erasing what they felt was his contribution and authorship of the song. Remember, this is their father's work so I guess emotions were high.
#31
Posted: 3/12/15 at 2:44pm
"This is a very complicated case and can not be judged merely by listening to the song."
I fail to see how this case is anything but a garden variety instance of copyright infringement. What is bizarre though, was the tack taken by Pharrell Williams and Robin Thicke which I amount to hubris on their parts. Their suit was a preemptive strike at the Gaye Estate which didn't work out as planned. Several lessons learned here starting with either create an original work or pay statutory royalties to copyright holders for the use of their music in a derived work or work out a separate licensing deal for use of said music in a derived work.
I fail to see how this case is anything but a garden variety instance of copyright infringement. What is bizarre though, was the tack taken by Pharrell Williams and Robin Thicke which I amount to hubris on their parts. Their suit was a preemptive strike at the Gaye Estate which didn't work out as planned. Several lessons learned here starting with either create an original work or pay statutory royalties to copyright holders for the use of their music in a derived work or work out a separate licensing deal for use of said music in a derived work.
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#32
Posted: 3/12/15 at 2:51pm
Javero, yes it is a case about copyright infringement. My point is that is not something easily judged merely by listening to a mashup.
From a friend in the business:
"What Pharell and Thicke tried to do was rerecord enough elements of the song so they had the equivalent of a sample. Except since it was not a perfect match to the original recording, they would not have to pay royalties to the Gaye Estate. They did this for only one reason. They did not want to share copyright ownership, or the income it generates, with the Gaye Estate. On the other hand, the Gaye Family felt that Pharrell/Thicke had copied enough elements of the original song that they had crossed the line from inspired by to being a derivative work."
From a friend in the business:
"What Pharell and Thicke tried to do was rerecord enough elements of the song so they had the equivalent of a sample. Except since it was not a perfect match to the original recording, they would not have to pay royalties to the Gaye Estate. They did this for only one reason. They did not want to share copyright ownership, or the income it generates, with the Gaye Estate. On the other hand, the Gaye Family felt that Pharrell/Thicke had copied enough elements of the original song that they had crossed the line from inspired by to being a derivative work."
Updated On: 3/12/15 at 02:51 PM
#33
Posted: 3/12/15 at 3:22pm
Thanks for sharing, Stage Door Sally.
After reading your last post, I empathize even less with Pharrell and Thicke. My complaint against the rap and hip-hop communities for 30 yrs now has been that there's so little originality in the over-sampled music. Don't get me wrong, my head has bobbed to many a tune but there is a sub-industry set up to lift other songwriters' material without due compensation with impunity in the guise of sampling.
After reading your last post, I empathize even less with Pharrell and Thicke. My complaint against the rap and hip-hop communities for 30 yrs now has been that there's so little originality in the over-sampled music. Don't get me wrong, my head has bobbed to many a tune but there is a sub-industry set up to lift other songwriters' material without due compensation with impunity in the guise of sampling.
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
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