battlestar galactica/caprica love thread

[followyourbliss23]

Posted: 1/12/10 at 2:07pm

this is a thread for all the 'bsg' fans that will be tuning into 'caprica' once it starts. anybody seen the 'caprica' pilot yet? it's no 'bsg', but it looks pretty promising. anybody have thoughts about 'the plan'? i, for one, was pretty disappointed. i thought it was going to be more about the final five, after earth, during their travels, and why they created certain models a certain way.

hope there are other bsg lovers like me!!
<3 <3 <3

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 1/12/10 at 2:20pm

Question! Does Battlestar Galatica get any better after the pilot episode? I tried watching that and I got pretty bored midway through and turned it off.

[followyourbliss23]

Posted: 1/13/10 at 1:09pm

oh god yes! the pilot is a lot to take in, but the series as a whole is absolutely fantasic. i'm not usually a fan of the sci fi genre, but 'bsg' is just beautifully written, great themes of human nature, fate/destiny, religon and the circular nature of societies. wonderful performances by edward james olmos and mary mcdonell (really the entire cast is great).

try watching a couple more episodes, i'd love to here your thoughts!

[bethnor]

Posted: 1/13/10 at 1:32pm

i loved bsg, but was disappointed when its creator decided to end everything with a deus ex machina. the cast was excellent, though (mcdonnell in particular was consistently robbed of any awards), and did everything they could to rise above the shoddy material they were handed in the end.

Question! Does Battlestar Galatica get any better after the pilot episode?

imho, if you were not roped in by the pilot, bsg is not for you.

[jasonf]

Posted: 1/13/10 at 8:30pm

I say if you didn't like the pilot try a couple more episodes. The first episode, 33, is BRILLIANT.

Loved the first couple of seasons of BSG, but like so many, thought it lost its way towards the end. It seems like they didn't quite know what to do with the last season.

I wasn't too much of a fan of The Plan -- I thought it was not much more than a shoddy clip show (despite Dean Stockwell being very good with what he was given).

It seemed once the four sleeper Cylons were revealed and we got through their processing it, there just wasn't any place to go with the story any more.

[followyourbliss23]

Posted: 1/28/10 at 1:56pm

ok, so my boyfriend and i just re-watched the entire series in preparation for 'caprica'. we finished last night...

let me preface by saying that, i, like many of you, was really disappointed when i FIRST watched the finale in 2009. re-watching the entire series made me (and my bf) absolutely fall in love with this show all over again. i gotta say, not only is the finale beautifully written, but it's also planned from the pilot episode! clues and hints as to the finale and humanities "end" are given throughout the series. ronald d moore and his team knew EXACTLY what this show was about and what they wanted to say from day one.

*SMALL SPOILER*

i think the problem with 'bsg', and the reason why so many were disappointed in the finale was because of the break between season 4 and season 4.5. because there was so much time between finding the destroyed earth and the finale episode, people were able to speculate & theorize about what everything meant and how the show was gonna end (i know i and all my friends did this). however, nobody's ending was the what really happened and therefor the finale didn't live up to anyone's expectations (including mine).

i worry that 'lost' will suffer the same fate. everyone thinks its gonna end this way or that way and we don't let ourselves just follow the story and let the writers take us where they will.

[bethnor]

Posted: 1/28/10 at 2:56pm

except we know that's not the case at all with BSG. rdm has gone on record on numerous occasions that he was making it all up as he went along. this yielded some fine television (the pegasus arc, the rescue from new caprica), but also some terrible dreck.

george r r martin, who is penning the acclaimed song of ice and fire epic (in line to be the tolkien of this generation) is right: deus ex machina is a terrible terrible way to end a story. as an experiment, take up creative writing. submit a story with an ending like bsg (i.e., god did it). you will be reduced to tears 100% of the time. why do people like rdm and james cameron get away with it? because they're rdm and james cameron! they piss in a cup and men call it wine. you and i offer cool, clear water, and people peer at it with suspicion and claim it tastes funny.

[jasonf]

Posted: 1/28/10 at 4:00pm

I was severely not impressed with Caprica. It felt unnecessary, and not that interesting. I may give it another try, but if it doesn't pick up FAST I'm clearing it from the DVR.

As for Lost - I've been speculating and guessing along with everyone else, but the difference with that show is the producers HAVE known where it was going since day one. They've said it numerous times - they have taken some detours on the way, but the endgame was always in sight. I'm convinced they'll end it well...

[followyourbliss23]

Posted: 1/28/10 at 5:04pm

bethnor: i didn't know rdm had said that. i know i read an article once where he said that the studies about mitochondrial eve from the 1990s & early 2000s was something he had been following, and he knew hera would play a part in that. i've also read others where he said that he was always wanting to talk about how societies worked in a circular nature. of course the series wasn't written word for word beforehand, but the themes were definitely there from the start.

as for the "deus ex machina", i think the difference with that in bsg is that the whole series is about fate & destiny. having an ending that says "we are destined to go here or there" is not a "deus ex machina", it's a conclusion.

i completely understand where you guys are coming from...i felt the same way until i started re-watching it.