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Posted: 3/8/09 at 8:42am

seriously? are you effin' kidding me?

it is by its very nature an extremist group.

wtf, neville???? dumb, dumb, dumb and wildly dangerous. they cannot be appeased.

if we give them what they want they will love us, i promise

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Updated On: 3/8/09 at 08:42 AM

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 10:52am

these are them, right?
the one we will be talking with?

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 11:01am

really? you just compared Obama to Chamberlain?

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 11:03am

You're surprised? Papa would compare Obama to Hitler if one of his relatives hit a Jew with their car.

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re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 11:12am

so we're to the point that the word appeased automatically a comparison and thus by extension a reference to the nazis? wtf? the verb appease existed before 1938 and continues to exist to this very day and is sometimes even used simply as a verb.

oh and pg, maybe you should try actually reading the boards instead of just making pronouncements based on incorrect assumptions that make you look even dumber than usual.

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 11:28am

Again papa, your failed to provide the context of the story.

Obama was asked if he would consider reaching to the more moderate factions within the Taliban - which is not the same as Al Qaeda. There have been fractions in Afghanistan between the two - and if they can be exploited, they should be. This tactic is exactly what helped the "surge" succeed.

The Taliban are a$$-backwards fundamentalists, who gave Al Qaaeda safe passage and support as Bin Laden plotted 9/11, but they are not the the same as Al Qaeda.

And, if the only difference is that the moderate elements of the Taliban are sick of Al Qaeda, we can exploit that. I see no problem in the divide and conquer path. Will it work, I have no idea, but it should not be dismissed completely.

Updated On: 3/15/09 at 11:28 AM

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 11:32am

you're the one that evoked hitler and the nazi's when you compared him to Chamberlain papa, so don't even try to run from it now.

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 11:36am

every use of the word appease is not a reference to chamberlain. well, maybe it is for those too stupid to see any other use of the word. so, good luck with that, kk. any other words you have determined always refer to specific people or events? i think from now on when anyone uses the word stupid on the board they will be automatically referring to you, kk.

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 11:38am

Maybe the Nazis had moderate elements in their ranks.

The moderate Talibans are the ones that say I am sorry before they behead you.

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Updated On: 3/15/09 at 11:38 AM

#10

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 11:50am

You mean the one's that tried to assassinate Hitler - yeah, there were some who tried to oppose him.

But go ahead a view everything as a monolith - it worked well for the start of the Iraq war. Better yet, it worked well for Communist China and the Soviet Union in the 50's and 60's.

All options should be on the table to resolve the mess we are in. The good old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" seems to apply here.

And, the Hitler comparison was uncalled for.

#11

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Posted: 3/15/09 at 12:02pm

oh, heh. i just saw that i called him neville. in that case, nevermind. he's just as naive as neville except neville was probably smarter and could at least have held a press conference to announce a nominee without a teleprompter. go 'head, mr. president, give up the teleprompter and prove me wrong. we have president ron freakin' burgandy. how long before someone slips a nice "and f*** the french" into one of his speeches?

now then, uncalled for? are you f****** kidding me? after the last 8 years that is uncalled for? yeah. okidoki. amazing the power some people have to just change their stripes and pretend that now we should all get along. well, maybe, just maybe, folks, some of us remember the last 8 years and we're not just ready to sing kumbaya. you perfected partisanship over the last few years so deal with it.

#12

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 12:05pm

Papa, I was directing that PG not you. It was uncalled for to say you would make that comparison. I was not judging your warped view of comparing Obama to Chamberlin.

Little quick on the trigger there.

And thanks again for painting all of us who had fundamental problems with the way George Bush undermined the US Constitution, ignored science, and conducted his foreign policy with one broad brush.

Updated On: 3/15/09 at 12:05 PM

#13

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 12:16pm

little quick on the trigger there.

hence my search for the premature ejaculation thread.

you know me, ywiw, i let no good deed go unpunished.

Updated On: 3/15/09 at 12:16 PM

#14

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 12:23pm

I will try to avoid doing them in the future.

#15

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 12:53pm

The bottom line is that the taliban are theocratic. There's no negotiating with people like that.
And they hate us just as much as al queda. They may be two different "organizations", but they share a common goal - to kill western infidels.

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#16

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 12:56pm

maybe they just don't know that bush is not president, taz. i mean i'm sure if we sent a woman in there to explain that they would change their tune.

#17

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 2:41pm

According to CNN, Taliban leaders have now issued a threat to foreign aid workers.

This must be the moderate element "O" is talking about. Can you spell Naive boys & girls?

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#18

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/15/09 at 2:51pm

And, what if there are moderate elements within the Taliban - I have no idea if they exist, but should we not explore that fact before we automatically say "no." You view these groups as monolithic structures, without branches or dissent to exploit.

It would be stupid to automatically refuse to consider the option.

And again, he was asked a question and answered it. This was not a policy speech saying he would do it. He basically gave a answer that said "if it is possible, I would look into it."

What is naive about that? You are confusing nuance with naive.

Updated On: 3/15/09 at 02:51 PM

#19

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Posted: 3/15/09 at 3:08pm

"Can you spell Naive boys & girls?"

Let me try..... M-r-R-o-x-y!

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#20

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Posted: 3/15/09 at 4:09pm

I like that Naive spelled backwards is Evian. Whenever I see one of their water bottles, I giggle a little.

#21

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/26/09 at 9:49am

wait, wait, wait...
this is them, right?

#22

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/26/09 at 9:55am

That's them papa. Once again the neo-cons are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and scare everyone.

In truth, the kid simply didn't like the restaurant. That's just how the talabs express their opinion.

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#23

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Posted: 3/26/09 at 9:56am

"how dare you assess a service change you filthy infidel pig?!?!"

#24

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Posted: 3/26/09 at 9:59am

He could have just not left a tip. I mean, really.

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#25

re: define moderate elements of the taliban

Posted: 3/26/09 at 10:05am

that was the fight, taz. look, he ordered coffee. wow they were there a long f****** time and she only filled his cup three times. when he orders coffee, he wants it filled *six* times. then they charged a 20% service charge on top of the bill, so who tips on top of that? they were begging to be blown up.

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