i'm paying for keith olbermann's raise and so are you

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:10pm

well, then by god i demand some creative input since i own his sorry ass. if not, when will he be giving back the cash?



people in glass houses, keith

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 03:10 PM

[romantico]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:25pm

Is Keith a GE Executive? Can you find a link to this story from a non biased site? If not, I have a ton of stories I would like to share from Huffpost and Thinkprogress.

In case anyone is interested in the author's bio,he use to work for Newt Gingrich.Peter Roff, a senior fellow with the Institute for Liberty, is a veteran Washington political operative and journalist. A former political director for Newt Gingrich's GOPAC he was, for five years, the senior political writer for United Press International, the venerable wire service in operation for more than 100 years.

Love this part:

"Among his more inflammatory comments, Olbermann once, after attacking Fox News host Sean Hannity for his position on "waterboarding," said he would donate $1,000 to charity for every second that Hannity was himself waterboarded, reported Newsmax.com."

Newsmax Papa? Really?

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 03:25 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:35pm

I saw Olbermann make the offer this week. That's not in dispute here, right?

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:36pm

Yeah, Im confused by romantico's post, Olbermann definitely made the offer, and called Hannity's bluff several times.

[romantico]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:37pm

No, that is not what I am disputing.I am aware of that offer by Keith. Sean has yet to respond and I doubt the chicken hawk will.

No, The article is BS.They seem to be saying he is a GE executive.Why are they singling Keith out?The author is a right wing nut and the site is clearly biased.

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 03:37 PM

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:38pm

Funny, I remember Sean offering to be waterboarded for a charity benefiting the troops when Charles Grodin was there.

And, it is my understanding that MSNBC made a profit last year, which helped GE's bottom line.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:40pm

ge got the bailout money: fact.
http://tinyurl.com/getakesthecash

olberman works for msnbc: fact.

ge owns msnbc: fact.

olbermann got a raise: fact.
http://tinyurl.com/keefkash

[romantico]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:41pm

Rupert Murdoch also made a profit.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:41pm

Papa, I don't think anyone is disputing that GE got a bailout and that Olbermann got a raise (he's overpaid). I think the dispute is whether a bailout means that every employee, even those who help make a profit for the company, should not receive bonuses/raises. Personally, I have said no, those who had no part in the failure/problem should not be punished with those that did.

And, as for the waterboarding issue, here is the conversation:

Charles Grodin was challenging Hannity on the issue on Fox last week, and asked whether he would consent to be waterboarded.

"Sure," Hannity said. "I'll do it for charity ... I'll do it for the troops' families."

It wasn't exactly clear how serious the conversation was, since Grodin joked, "Are you busy on Sunday?" and Hannity laughed.

"I'll let you do it," Hannity said.

"I wouldn't do it," Grodin said. "I'll hand you a towel when you come out of the shower."


I think the issue here is how this was framed in the article linked to by papa.

Hannity Updated On: 5/1/09 at 03:41 PM

[romantico]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:45pm

Where does it say the bailout $$ is going to Keith? Where is he mentioned?The article was dated November of 2008,so this is not that recent.Why is Keith being singled out? The article does not mention Keith.Again, do you consider Keith a GE Executive? Last time I checked, Olbermann was a TV pundit, a "worker bee," not a CEO of a bailout company. There's a distinct difference.

Peter Roff is also the former Political Director of GOPAC

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Peter_Roff

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/2001/12/123001_Peter_Roff_GOPAC_Memo.html

Hope you don't mind my source coming from Buzzflash. Maybe I will post a story about Glen Beck or Sean Hanity written by Sean Penn.

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 03:45 PM

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:53pm

i consider any one person making over $500k a year an executive. i consider anyone making over $1m a year to be privileged. i think that all of the people who called for heads to roll to consider what they would be saying if aig had given any employee a 175% raise with public money. especially iof that person was already making $4m. especially when that person makes a living being holier than thou and railing against the "fat cats."

have you no shame keith?

i want my money back.

[romantico]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:57pm

You may consider them an executive but GE obviously does not.My guess is his compensation was increased because he increased the views of the network and ad revenue while those executives continues to get more and more money while the value of their companies tanked.I sort of agree with you on their pay salaries,but again why single out Keith Olberman? You MUST feel the same way towards Glen Beck, Sean Hanity, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham as well.

Shame? LOL! Good one! Until I hear you add some pundits from Fox News to that list it is just a personal grudge you have against Keith.

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 03:57 PM

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 3:58pm

So, was Jerry Seinfeld an executive? Are Mariska Hargitay and Chris Meloni executives? Is Brian Williams an Executive? What about Merideth Viera? How bout Steve Carrell, is he an executive?

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:01pm

did their networks take bailout money and then give them raises?

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:05pm

That wasn't what I was asking, you claimed anyone who made over 500k was an executive. I listed people who made more than 500K and asked if they were executives.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:17pm

actually i do consider every one of them an executive. they are the ceo's of their own business which is them. further several of them are indeed executives: seinfeld - producer of seinfeld. carell - producer on the office. meredith - co-exec producer on milionaire. brian williams is managing editor of nbc's nightly news which i consider an executive position.

[ZONEACE]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:18pm

right, so you're wrong and won't admit, good choice.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:21pm

i said i consider them executives. i do. i consider any actor or performer an executive becuase they are essentially running a company which is them. they are selling a product: them. the vast majority suck at it or have a really terrible product.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:28pm

Here's the whole Charles Grodin interview on Hannity on which Hannity agrees to be waterboarded. It's worth watching the whole thing, 10 minutes all together:


Part One:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtPNOR4XlBo



Part Two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLLveO24ygU

[romantico]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:42pm

But I still am curious as to why you are singling out Keith Olberman. Again, GE does not consider him an executive and you, or I should say the biased author of that piece you posted,is making assumptions NOT based on facts.

You hate Keith Olberman but you are making a piss poor argument and the title of this thread is hilarious and not true at all.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:47pm

ge took taxpayer money. keith gets a $3.5m raise from ge. pretty simple.

keith olbermann: the worst person in the world and a hypocrite to boot.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:54pm

It's too bad GE doesn't pay things like health insurance for mail room clerks. You know, like the ones who opened Tom Brokaw's anthrax?

I'm surprised their giving Olbermann a raise. Maddow I could understand.

[romantico]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 4:55pm

G.E. Financial was taken under the wing of the F.D.I.C. insurance structure in November of 2008, with a 'credit limit' of one hundred thirty-nine billions, involving various short-term commercial papers that had to be rolled over by June of this year. This is not a loan or provision of capital to G.E. Financial from the government, and it is not apparent that any money actually changed hands at all.General Electric was also one of the companies that met with Cheney's National Energy Development Program Group.Joe Scarborough also works for GE. Guess you are paying his mortgage as well.

You still have not answered my question about the author of the OP. Judging by his background, would this guy write a positive piece on Keith? Is this your idea of a fair and balanced write up? I emailed the article to Keith at MSNBC in hopes that he might address this issue.Guess I should have sent him the link to this post as well.Papa, come one already!

Updated On: 5/1/09 at 04:55 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 5:01pm

Why would they give Joe Scarborough a raise? No one watches his show.

[romantico]

Posted: 5/1/09 at 5:04pm

I know but he works for GE and according to the article Papa posted he must also be an executive like Keith.Waiting to hear why Keith is being singled out and no one else.