more change: obama signs on for indefinite detention via...wait for it...oh yeah, executive order!

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 6/27/09 at 7:19pm

i thought he was going to put an end to this kinda thing. both the power grabs by the executive branch and the indefinite detentions.
change we can believe in!

[Q]

Posted: 6/27/09 at 7:28pm

This is pathetic.

I guess pretense is useless at this point.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 6/27/09 at 7:34pm

Why don't we wait until it actually happens before you condemn him?

If he does it, then condemn away.


WH Denies.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 6/27/09 at 8:09pm

i would not want to be the guy that leaked this. he's headed for bagram.

it's not like we'll know anyway. unless someone sues.
and then maybe

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 6/27/09 at 8:16pm

Papa, I agree with you. Just because Bush did it does not make it right for Obama to follow suit.

BTW - nice failure to fix the misleading characterization in the title to the thread.

It would be nice for you to actually wait for him to do the thing you complain about before you criticize the action.
Updated On: 6/27/09 at 08:16 PM

Posted: 6/27/09 at 11:48pm

But Papa isn't criticizing Obama he's praising him. Right? Because you liked it when Bush did it so you must like ot when Obama does it. Right?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/28/09 at 12:10am

All in all, I think the president is doing a MUCH better job than I expected. Don't you agree, Joe?

Posted: 6/28/09 at 9:13am

As I expected, he's doing a spectacular job in extremely difficult circumstances. Incidents like these are extremely telling though: The Republicans hate him so much that they can't even see straight so even in a situation like this, which is not only what they wanted, but realistically, the only choice he has right now, they have to wail and kvetch.

It makes me wonder, can this country ever unite behind a president again?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/28/09 at 9:22am

And how do you feel about his action on gay issues? Again, I think he's doing much better than I thought he would.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 6/28/09 at 10:59am

until he's authorizing summary executions and real torture - not this pansy ass water boarding sh*t but real electrodes on the genitals and broken fingers and acid drips - i consider him even more of a p*ssy that dubya.

Posted: 6/29/09 at 11:00am

Ah but did W have personal bands of roving killers, causing to blood to run in the streets? I think you'd better pick a side Papa.

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 6/29/09 at 11:06am

not only did dubya have them, joe, but he didn't effin' outsource them! dubya proudly used american killers, unlike mr. world affairs who has puts american killers out of work with his marauding bands of afghans. what's next? a new tax on condoms to pay for bullets for non-american killers? universal health care and government sponsored bonuses for these non-citizen killers? i cannot even begin to tell you how disgusted i am.