#26
Posted: 9/20/04 at 12:51pm
reuters article pisses me off — Page 2
#27
Posted: 9/20/04 at 12:56pm
ok, when it comes to editorial content in supposed news articles, i must remove myself from the discussion as i am a republican in nyc, so i long ago lost the ability to spot that kinda thing.
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#28
Posted: 9/20/04 at 1:02pm
No one denies that Kushner was making a political statement. It's that this writer paints that in a negative light--and the reality is both Jeffrey Wright and Mike Nichols made political statements (as well as a few others more covertly, including Shandling's comic bits).
#29
Posted: 9/20/04 at 2:22pm
I think you're being a little over the top on this. You're basing your decision that authors (Steve Gorman and Arthur Spiegelman) contributing to the article are opposed to gay marriage because of quotes around the word husband?
Rath is correct, the gramatical rule regarding quotation marks is as follows:
To enclose words or phrases to clarify their meaning or use or to indicate that they are being used in a special way.
No one is debating the right for gays to marry. Reuters is correct in their use of quotations around the word. They are not making a political statement in doing so.
Rath is correct, the gramatical rule regarding quotation marks is as follows:
To enclose words or phrases to clarify their meaning or use or to indicate that they are being used in a special way.
No one is debating the right for gays to marry. Reuters is correct in their use of quotations around the word. They are not making a political statement in doing so.
Thank you so much Fair. You are such a "Bewitching" HUSSY! -(DAME 12/2)
#30
Posted: 9/20/04 at 2:30pm
No, Fair. As I've mentioned now like four times...the issue is not just the quotation marks, but the highlighting of that political statment and no other. And to take it even further, to say essentially that political comments are not ok at awards shows.
And, the gramatical rule of thumb is just not the case in this. He could hav easily just included the quote without referencing his husband at all. But, the author chose to include his political slant blatantly in the article. This is not a subtle issue, it is blatant.
And, the gramatical rule of thumb is just not the case in this. He could hav easily just included the quote without referencing his husband at all. But, the author chose to include his political slant blatantly in the article. This is not a subtle issue, it is blatant.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
#31
Posted: 9/20/04 at 2:47pm
pop,
of course political statements have hurt people in the past, but the point of the writer saying that was just to mention his point of view. I'm sorry, there is not getting around it. A writer does not put quotes around something unless she or he has a particular reason for doing so. There are ways to write an article on the Emmy's without mentioning stuff like this...especially in such a way. The writer writes "husband" and then writes essentially how the night should have been saved for better things than political comments. That is nothing but an editorial where it doesn't belong. Shame shame, sir (as they say in parliament).
of course political statements have hurt people in the past, but the point of the writer saying that was just to mention his point of view. I'm sorry, there is not getting around it. A writer does not put quotes around something unless she or he has a particular reason for doing so. There are ways to write an article on the Emmy's without mentioning stuff like this...especially in such a way. The writer writes "husband" and then writes essentially how the night should have been saved for better things than political comments. That is nothing but an editorial where it doesn't belong. Shame shame, sir (as they say in parliament).
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
#32
Posted: 9/20/04 at 2:59pm
The quotes aren't the issue. The article could have been written by the author without quotes, and a copywriter could have inserted them in as they went to press. Just because a journalist writes something doesn't guarantee it's going to make it into print that way.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#33
Posted: 9/20/04 at 3:04pm
Fight the REAL enemy: George Bush, not Reuters.
#34
Posted: 9/20/04 at 4:09pm
because as you all should know, george actually wrote the reuters article. well, not wrote it per se, but merely fostered the kind of environment in which an article like that could be written. for that he's guilty, guilty, guilty!!!
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#35
Posted: 9/20/04 at 4:13pm
papa,
Good. You're learning.
Good. You're learning.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
#36
Posted: 9/20/04 at 4:15pm
i try, touch, but like i always say, my long hair just can't cover up my red neck.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#37
Posted: 9/20/04 at 4:17pm
We'll learn ya.
"Fundamentalism means never having to say 'I'm wrong.'"
-- unknown
#38
Posted: 9/20/04 at 5:12pm
What the article should have mentioned was the fact that a Hollywood awards ceremony that included a "rare political comment" is a rarity in itself. Note that he never mentioned Shandling's comment on the same subject during his opening monologue. I agree that the article does seem to reflect a certain biased attitude as if to slap Kushner's hand for his political faux-pas. But no mention of the lengthy speeches regarding AIDS in Africa, either.
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