why do some people become personaly offended others achieving some measure of fame?

i don't understand it. i may not understand why some people gain some measure of public recognition, but as long as they are not hurting anyone else to do so, wtf do i care?

i can't fathom why some movies get made, but it doesn't offend me that they do. i just want to try to understand why some people seem to be almost pained by someone they deem untalented - or not wildly talented or whatever - being singled out.

this is inspired by the kristina chen thing, but it's more than that. it's something i see here an awful lot. to me it's like being outraged that anyone would watch a pauly shore movie.

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Jealousy, Papa.

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I didn't get the sense that anyone was offended or pained by Chen's popularity.
I think people are just amazed that she is so popular.
What's offensive is that the majority of her "fans" are laughing AT her, not WITH her.

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"Also, especially in the theater, the talent does will out in the end."

If only that were true in movies. It just annoys the hell out of me when grossly uncapable people ruin otherwise interesting films. Keanu in A SCANNER DARKLY, for example. It isn't jealousy, it is anger that something that could have been excellent is going to be forever compromised by some incompetent boob named Keanu or Brad or Brian or Clint or Rob.

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"It's so easy for ANYONE to put themselves out there and be seen"

Anyone but YOU, you mean....

I completely get what papa is saying and agree 100%. It's not about criticism--there are people who OBSESS over their hatred. That's not healthy or productive.

And some of those AI people on Broadway ARE theatre trained and just got a nice shortcut. Good for them. We have to find the shortcuts where we can.

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I don't see how those are examples at all. I doubt that blueroses would really knock Dunst's teeth in, it's just a hyperbolic way of expressing her opinion that she dislikes Dunst.

I also don't see how you conclude that she is obsessing over her.

It seems that if someone has a negative opinion of a celebrity everyone thinks they're jealous. How silly.

Does everyone here love Paris Hilton? Spencer from the Hills? Are you jealous if you answer no?

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Henceforth we must all be as Papa and Jrby, perfect examples of love and light, dispensing wisdom and joy wherever we go.

Praise PAPA and JRB!!!

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The only time I'm a "jealous bitch" is when I see these folks getting reality shows and they contribute nothing of worth.

I do find that a little repulsive since they're making money for being attention whores. Probably what's more repulsive is the fact that people watch it. I guess the audience pisses me off more.

Good.

I wouldn't expect someone like Roscoe to get it because he's one of the worst. How many times DO I have to read that he hates Chicago?? Build a bridge, honey.

See--I don't give two ****s about Paris Hilton or anyone from The Hills. I don't bother with the fact that they are just fluff.

I will say again: there is a supreme difference between criticism and obsession. A difference between posting your review of that person, film, play once and/or anytime your opinion is asked and posting your review in any and every thread possible--making certain that every single person on the planet knows exactly how you feel and double so if anyone dares to praise that which you despise.

Javero, I don't think politics is comparable. Paris Hilton and Britney Spears and even Rob Marshall aren't going to affect my life directly--my rights. My economy. My nation. George Bush, Barack Obama, John McCain do. And we who vote have every right to bitch about their actions.

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"I will say again: there is a supreme difference between criticism and obsession. A difference between posting your review of that person, film, play once and/or anytime your opinion is asked and posting your review in any and every thread possible--making certain that every single person on the planet knows exactly how you feel and double so if anyone dares to praise that which you despise."

I agree, jerby. And none of this contradicts what I said in my post. RetroBoy pointing to my quote as a "perfect example" of my being "personally offended" that Dunst has achieved success made no sense. What I disagreed with was that criticism (not obsession) always has to stem from jealousy. People say that far too often. Criticize their favorite Broadway star, American Idol performer, etc., and they're the ones that are personally offended and pull the "you're jes jealous!" crap.

Updated On: 7/15/08 at 04:36 PM

Jrb, I was comparing you to the great God McCain, your sole rival when it comes to nobility and purity.

Curse my slow typing, I wasn't clear! Forgive, Jrb, Forgive!!

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