A discussion for those who have seen doubt....

[C is for Company]

A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#0

Posted: 8/19/05 at 4:04am

...and had their doubts. I know how some find in their own way justification to the side that they believe is right, and in thinking about it, would care to know everyone elses take on what the truth may be. I plan on returning again to see doubt and looking more in depth into finding out a more debatable side to take than what I tell myself. Anybody have any interesting observations into whether they find Father Flynn to be innocent or not?

[iluvtheatertrash]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#1

Posted: 8/19/05 at 8:07am

Oh, he's guilty.

But I think the more important question is, "Has the Sister sinned as well?"

That response is a resounding "Yes".

"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman

[twogaab2]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#2

Posted: 8/19/05 at 9:45am

Wether he is guilty or not is not the point. If it was, the name of the play would be "Proof" rather than "Doubt".

Just my opinion, I may be wrong.

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[melissa errico fan]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#3

Posted: 8/19/05 at 10:29am

He's guilty.

[WickedGeek28]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#4

Posted: 8/19/05 at 10:33am

Love the new icon, well the first icon I think. lol

"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
To Kill A Mockingbird

[jrb_actor]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#5

Posted: 8/19/05 at 1:57pm

I was in doubt. And, I know people who saw the show the first time and had a strong opinion only to change it completely after seeing the play a second time.

But truly only Brian, JPS, Hughes(and maybe his asst), and the understudy know for sure.

The thing about the play is that an actor can play the role guilty, innocent, as a priest with a past who is innocent now, or as a priest who is fighting the temptation, etc.

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[C is for Company]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#6

Posted: 8/19/05 at 10:53pm

Seeing it, I wasnt so sure, even so if he was guilty, her persistence at times was not founded on such strong ground. By the end, her last line totally brought me back to the first peg. However tonight I bought the script and totally caught a line I missed in their loud argument as she asks him about giving wine to donald muller

Flynn: Have you never done anything wrong?

What innocent person says that, almost likke in that instant he wanted to confess. Overall i sympathize with flynn, yet admire aloysius in her persistence, even if she did stray from a modest concern. She, I find, is the ULTIMATE comparison to Javert. Both strong willed catholics in the pursuit of justice

[TheHumanTorch]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#7

Posted: 8/19/05 at 11:03pm

I was completely assured of Father Flynn's innocence until the second to last scene, with the confrontation between Aloycious and Flynn... but I'm so blinded by my wish that Flynn is innocent, that I believe, right now, that he's just a man with a past that he wants to hide... i'm sure i'll change my opinion in a couple of days though

[C is for Company]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#9

Posted: 8/19/05 at 11:32pm

I beleived he was innocent until his last argument with aloysius, then with her last line i found him innocent once again. I thought that if she has her own doubts about that unrelenting persistence we see the whole time, then how can she be sure she was doing the right thing. then now looking deeper into the text I see subtle hints at his guilt. I really dont know what to think, I do sympathize with him however guilty or not, yet really applaud the efforts of Sister for trying to protect him from harm, much as it seems Flynn tries to do just in a different way. It is an extraordinary piece and I read Shanley and O'Byrne decided the truth before rehearsals began. We can only wonder

[little_sally]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#10

Posted: 8/19/05 at 11:44pm

He's innocent.

Or at least that's what I think.

A little swash, a bit of buckle - you'll love it more than bread.

[bythesword84]

re: A discussion for those who have seen doubt....#11

Posted: 8/20/05 at 12:07am

I think he's innocent. I actually thought about this a lot after I saw it. I think that a lot of what caused my decision was based on the time period in which the play was set. There is a part where they refer to Vatican II and the changes it made to the church. I felt that Sister's determination to stick to the old ways of the Church- the more formal, less personal approach- in running her school were being threatened by his bringing in the newer approaches and the changes.

And hang on, when did you win the discus?