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#27

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

This is like an expanded Cirque show. It belongs in Vegas if anywhere. I daresay none of these problems would have surfaced. It would have been set to go long before the first paying customer.
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#28

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

If it were MY money, I would NEVER have done it on Broadway. I would have done an arena tour. Start it at Madison Square Garden, perhaps. That doesn't mean the show would be in better shape technically or artistically, but it is to say that the arena venue would a) allow for improved technical capabilities and b) allow a higher profit to be made.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
#29

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

Disneyland MM, Have you seen Spider-Man? Did you audition for the show and were turned down? Did you apply to work backstage and were turned down? Did you work on a Julie Taymor show, opera, movie and were fired? Did the Disney folks fire you? You protest too much! As for what is or isn't art, "F**k Art, Let's Dance."

Mr. Roxy, I know you are old as dirt, but you would be surprised what has been done on Broadway, if you knew Broadway history. Broadway is no a sacred place.
#31

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

Broadway used to be a sacred place. Now it is all about money.

To my good buddy NAMO:

If you did not like Shrek so be it, I also assume I am the only one saying the book for Spiderman is bad right?
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#32

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

I was talking about Disneyland Magic Man. He saw Shrek and hated it and heard Spiderman's book is bad and so he thinks THIS TRASH DOESN'T BELONG ON BROADWAY and it's his personal crusade to use any excuse to call for it to be shut down.

Also, I totally agree with you about Cirque and Vegas. They have the creation of impressionistic narrative shows filled with death defying stunts down to an artform. They spend so much time getting everything right. But something like "O," the most beautiful performance I've seen in my life, must have dwarfed the measly little 65 million dollar Spidey budget.

If Taymor had collaborated with Cirque and opened in Vegas, the money would have rolled in.
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#33

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

Mr Roxy, let's get one thing straight: Broadway has ALWAYS been money. ALWAYS. ***ALWAYS***

The only thing that has changed about Broadway is technology. It used to be that one could get away with marketing a show by having good writers. Audiences see the name Tennessee Williams or Cole Porter and they have an expectation.

Today, with the advancement of technology, producers no longer have to rely solely on the content of the work. Now they have fancy lights and projections and treadmills and automation and flying. Plus, film and television have become more mainstream than theatre, so now producers also rely on already-known titles that millions of people have already seen.

Let's say you're a producer. Your goal is to make money. Would you put your investors' money in a show about an internationally known comic book hero with flying spectacle, or would you put your money in a show about a family dealing with a mother who has a mental disorder?

There is PLENTY of original material happening off-Broadway. And that's where NEXT TO NORMAL began after workshopping.

So if you want to see non-spectacle "art" then go off-Broadway, go to some regional houses. Broadway has some, too. So go see those shows. But be warned: a lot of those shows are crap, too. And some of those had three-digit budgets.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
#34

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

Please please please let there be someone backstage filming all this so we can have the most awesomest theatre documentary ever?
"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali
#35

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

I'm sorry but I hate when people get on here and say "this show needs to close." You know by saying that you are wishing for a lot people to be out of jobs?

I know shows suck and are awful and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but stop asking for shows to close putting hard working people out of jobs. I hope if you suck at your job, you have people asking for your company to get rid of you. You know, because that makes so much more sense than teaching you a better way to do your job.

Having said that, something needs to change IMMEDIATELY with SpiderMan. I haven't seen it so I don't know if it's bad or not. But it has been confirmed that it is unsafe. I think they should shut down for as long as it takes to make the show as safe as they can. Maybe take some of the stunts out, maybe tone down some of the flying sequences...whatever. Granted it sounds like Chris' accident was a safety harness not tethered to him correctly which could happen in any show where people need to be harnessed at significant heights. But when you have 4 major injuries, something needs to change.
#36

Details on SPIDER-MAN's Christopher Tierney's Accident and Condition

Yes please! I desperately want footage of Taymor in her black leather bustier, fishnets and riding crop forcing the cowering stuntmen into their harnesses and laughing maniacally!
Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!

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