Enough of these 'Rent Critics'- Page 2
Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Urban
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/27/05
#25re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/7/06 at 7:17pm
Stupid request, but is it possible to break use paragraphs in your post, broken up by lines? I don't mean to ask but I was really having trouble staying focused in the middle there, all those run-on lines where annoying and I can't exactly comment to your point if I cannot read it all.
Please don't take this the wrong way, it is just there is rather few ways of asking. 
#26re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:14pm
So I finnaly got to my last straw with the many critics reviews of Rent.
How is it that so often those who criticize critics when they write a negative review of something they love are the same ones who celebrate the same critics if they write a postive review of something they love?
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#27re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/7/06 at 10:15pm
Urban: Maybe they're trying to emulate Anne Rice's Amazon.com critique style!
I mean, yo, you dude!
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#28re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/7/06 at 11:04pmbad rent reviews make me mad because I dont understand how anybody can say something terrible about this movie. It wasn't the best--i'll give them that..but its something. And I loved it. But you know, it doesnt really matter what they say, there are so many things that have had bad reviews, but turned out great.
#29re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/7/06 at 11:14pm
bad rent reviews make me mad because I dont understand how anybody can say something terrible about this movie.
You'll understand when you're older.
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
armchairdictator
Chorus Member Joined: 12/29/05
#30re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/7/06 at 11:27pm
LOL. And to add...
It wasn't the best--i'll give them that..but its something.
Sometimes nothing is better than something. Good examples are most Steven Seagal movies... My G-d, how much money could have been saved and have fed the starving...
#31re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/7/06 at 11:38pm
After 126497236593475897 posts we now have accomplished that some people love the RENT movie and some people were not satisfied. Well there's a surprise. So now instead of lashing out at each other we are lashing out at the critics...I see. What i don't understand is if you don't like what their writing about the movie then why read it? Personally i loved the movie and i love to read anything about it, to see what others think. But if you can't deal with typed words on paper, don't read the reviews.
Updated On: 1/7/06 at 11:38 PM
#32re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/8/06 at 12:16amI really don't mind at all if critics disliked RENT. Personally, I loved it but not everyone has to. As I said in my first post it is stupid for reviewers to critizce things in the stage show that were not even in the movie or to make suggestions to better the film that were actually in the film already. I know no one was specifically arguing with me but I just wanted to point out that sometimes reviews can be just plan wrong which in turn can effect a movie's popularity.
#33re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/8/06 at 1:19am
Personally, I never really cared for the stage musical and will not likely see the movie. In my opinion, the choregraphy of the stage version is too busy with bodies flailing about all over the place at certain points. I've seen plenty of straight plays and musicals on and off Broadway, with a preference for the former. It took two sittings for me to cull the underlying story from all the noise and circus acts on stage.
I don't aim to offend anyone but most of the people over the age of 30 that I know who've seen the stage version felt that the characters were a bit cartoonish akin to the west coast Cockettes of years past, a perception which I don't attribute solely to casting. None of us expected the musical to be a melodramatic tear-fest despite subject matter but the characters were underdeveloped. There was very little interaction between the main 'Rent' characters and others outside their clique.
To me the musical's redemption is the interaction between Angel and Tom Collins. Any writer regardless of medium knows that a character only becomes interesting when he or she is placed in imminent danger and we observe how this character deals with the crisis. The protagonist requires an obstacle either externally or internally. Tom met his in the form of the muggers and his impending demise due to his illness. Angel wrestled his own demons. Their story was THE STORY waiting to be unleashed with the back story of Rodger and Mimi giving the whole work the heft required to make the running-time cut for a Broadway mounting and suitable for adaption to feature film. The rest of the play (and movie by most accounts)was fodder. The Joanne and Maureen pairing added little to the story as did the protest against Benny. Mark, the narrator could have been used to better effect also.
There is a reason why 'Brokeback Mountain' has received so many plaudits and 'Rent -the Movie' hasn't that transcends orientation, station in life, and ideology. It is my opinion that red state America has grown weary of inner-city-themed music and other fare that espouses blue state values. It is too easy for staunch social conservatives and fundamentalist Christians to paint the characters of 'Rent' as "degenerates".
The brilliance of 'Brokeback Mountain' from a commercial standpoint is that it puts what is still a hard pill for many to swallow in the powdery form of an iconic American hero, the cowboy. A same-sex love story has been made palatable to folks that ordinarily have a hard time with the concept. And it accomplished this feat by keeping the story centered on two focal characters. Older audiences and red state denizens like movies that have simple plot lines (w/o too much subplot), well-developed focal characters that we can root for or hate on and jaw-dropping scenery, all wrapped in good cinematography that doesn't jolt the senses like some of today's music videos with cameras panning all over the place.
I predicted early on that 'Rent - The Movie' would not meet critical or public acclaim. With just a little imagination one can see that the "Angel & Tom Story" had the perfect makings of a precursor to 'Brokeback Mountain'. I'm sure though that many of you will argue that comparing the two films is like comparing apples and oranges given the different genres. My take on it still is tell a great story and all boats rise together.
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
Updated On: 1/8/06 at 01:19 AM
Urban
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/27/05
#34re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/8/06 at 5:26am
Lizzie did I tell you I love you. 
You make me laff.
Actually I have written a couple of fairly negitive reviews of RENT (The stage production anyway, I have yet to see the movie) on these boards. Stinging in fact. I don't like it, I 'get' the message, but doesn't mean the show was anything worthy of phrase (at least to me).
ZONEACE
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/10/05
#35re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/8/06 at 5:27am
NEWSFLASH
the movie still sucks.
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
EdmundOG
Broadway Star Joined: 7/9/05
#36re: Enough of these 'Rent Critics'
Posted: 1/8/06 at 10:01am
And here I thought I didn't like it because it's a poorly made mess of a movie. Turns out I'm just a whiny crybaby with no right to an opinion. Who knew?
(Oh, and since this thread is not for bad reviews, but rather to discuss bad reviews, that's why I didn't offer any support for my dislike. So don't try to catch me on that one.)
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