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Holiday VS Hudson

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best12bars
#50re: Holiday VS Hudson
Posted: 1/7/07 at 3:26pm

Just a little more food for thought...

Jennifer Holliday WAS Effie. The role was created for her, and WITH her in mind. Many of her traits, faults, abilities, and characteristics were written into the character, the songs, and even the PLOT. She was fired from the show and then she came back. She was difficult to work with, challenging and temperamental during the rehearsal process, etc. We've all heard the stories from the people involved.

Jennifer Hudson is NOTHING like Effie in real life. She's ambitious, sure, but she's a very sweet, happy, excited, young lady. Condon had to work hard with her each day to get her to appear be "difficult," "challenging" and "temperamental" on the screen.

This is called ACTING and DIRECTING for film.

Not type-casting and "being."

I still give Hudson the edge here... for how far she had to come to "find" her Effie.


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#51re: Holiday VS Hudson
Posted: 1/7/07 at 4:16pm

Okay, now I want to hear Mariah sind AIATY....


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Al Dente
#52re: Holiday VS Hudson
Posted: 1/7/07 at 4:34pm

best12bars, Condon may have had to work to get Hudson to seem difficult, but she definitely was already cocky and very aware of her talent like Effie. That Broadway.com video last month made that pretty clear.

kevs
#53re: Holiday VS Hudson
Posted: 1/7/07 at 10:09pm

"Mariah has had extensive vocal training all her life; her mother was a singer with the New York City Opera and a vocal coach. Mariah appreciates the instrument she has and tries her best to maintain a healthy singing voice - not speaking when touring, humidifiers when she is sleeping etc."


This is off-topic but Mariah has ALWAYS bragged that she's NEVER had any voice training, despite the fact that her mother is an opera singer. And I think it's painfully obvious that her voice is, well, awful now. She sounds decent recorded, but she lip syncs all of the high parts in her live performances. All the voice rest and humidifiers in the world will do no good if she doesn't practice a healthy technique.

Danielm
#54re: Holiday VS Hudson
Posted: 1/8/07 at 5:37pm

Kevs, she may not sing the song in the original key but that doesn't mean her voice is destroyed. You try to sing in the same key you did 30 years ago.

Another point--and I say this not to diminish Hudson in any way because I think she is wonderful but, in the movie the songs are all pre-recorded so we don't really get her singing the song live. I've heard her sing other songs from the score and she is wonderful but comparing a movie performance to a live, sustained performance in a Broadway show is silly.

In fact, this whole topic is beyond silly.


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takehomeazak06
#55re: Holiday VS Hudson
Posted: 1/8/07 at 9:27pm

I believe both are brillant. I have never seen Holliday live besides on Youtube. But of all that i have seen i love them both.

Outside of Dreamgirls i like Hudson's voice better but Holliday is still amazing.

Both are amazing.


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